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    Re: Court OKs dumping gold mine waste in lake

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    Court OKs dumping gold mine waste in lake



    Court OKs dumping gold mine waste in lake - Yahoo! News

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    While I understand the basis of their opinion, redefining arsenic as filler material and then allowing it to be dumped into lakes where it will kill all most life is pretty nuts.
    Hey maybe it's because the United States has been caught with its pants down and needs to start mining gold really fast and don't give a damn where the waste goes.

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    Re: Court OKs dumping gold mine waste in lake

    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post

    While I understand the basis of their opinion, redefining arsenic as filler material and then allowing it to be dumped into lakes where it will kill all most life is pretty nuts.
    Why do you think there's arsenic in it? Just because wikipedia says there is arsenic in some tailings doesn't mean, obviously, that it is present in all of them.

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    Re: Court OKs dumping gold mine waste in lake

    Quote Originally Posted by Middleground View Post
    You'd be surprised at what some companies get away with. We don't hear the half of it. And this instance, it just sickens me, especially because gold is a useless metal. All it does is provide bling.
    The computer that you're using has some of that useless metal in it.

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    Re: Court OKs dumping gold mine waste in lake

    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    Likely still high.
    You don't have any idea what the original concentration is, but you think after dilution that the concentration will likely still be high?

    Well, I think it's likely to be almost zero.

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    Re: Court OKs dumping gold mine waste in lake

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    They should dump it in every Republican's swimming pool instead starting with Palin's.
    If I remember my history correctly, the primary reason that explorers came to the New World (I believe the Spanish), was to find gold. Interesting.
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    Re: Court OKs dumping gold mine waste in lake

    Feel free to give up the advantages of refined metals, mining and so forth at any time to provide us an example.
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    Re: Court OKs dumping gold mine waste in lake

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    IGold is an excellent conductor of electricity. It doesn't degrade like other metals do. It's used in a lot of high tech electronics.

    Gold is used in medicine, industry, electronics, dentistry, even NASA uses gold to cover the visors on astronauts space suits.
    Since gold has been first mined, humans have found no more than what will fill 2 Olympic-sized swimming pools. Yet I am being told it's being used for a ton of more things besides bling. What am I to believe? There's only so much to go around.
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    Re: Court OKs dumping gold mine waste in lake

    Quote Originally Posted by RightinNYC View Post
    That seems pretty concerning on its face, though I wonder what the concentration would be after dilution in the lake.
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    In lake bottoms, mercury can can become more dangerous to us:

    Methylmercury (CH3Hg+) is a neurotoxin, and the form of mercury that is most easily bioaccumulated in organisms. Methylmercury consists of a methyl group bonded to a single mercury atom, and is formed in the environment primarily by a process called biomethylation. Mercury biomethylation is the transformation of divalent inorganic mercury (Hg(II)) to CH3Hg+, and is primarily carried out by sulfate-reducing bacteria that live in anoxic (low dissolved oxygen) environments, such as estuarine and lake-bottom sediments.

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    Re: Court OKs dumping gold mine waste in lake

    Quote Originally Posted by Middleground View Post
    Since gold has been first mined, humans have found no more than what will fill 2 Olympic-sized swimming pools. Yet I am being told it's being used for a ton of more things besides bling.
    I don't know about the truth of your first statement, but why would that disprove the second?

    At the end of 2006, it was estimated that all the gold ever mined totaled 158,000 tonnes. [1] This can be represented by a cube with an edge length of just 20.2 meters. Modern industrial uses include dentistry and electronics, where gold has traditionally found use because of its good resistance to oxidative corrosion and excellent quality as a conductor of electricity.
    Gold is the most malleable and ductile of all metals; a single gram can be beaten into a sheet of one square meter, or an ounce into 300 square feet. Gold leaf can be beaten thin enough to become translucent. The transmitted light appears greenish blue, because gold strongly reflects yellow and red.[2]

    Gold readily creates alloys with many other metals. These alloys can be produced to modify the hardness and other metallurgical properties, to control melting point or to create exotic colors (see below). Gold is a good conductor of heat and electricity and reflects infra red radiation strongly. Chemically, it is unaffected by air, moisture and most corrosive reagents, and is therefore well-suited for use in coins and jewelry and as a protective coating on other, more reactive, metals.
    Gold, or alloys of gold and palladium, are applied as conductive coating to biological specimens and other non-conducting materials such as plastics and glass to be viewed in a scanning electron microscope. The coating, which is usually applied by sputtering with an argon plasma, has a triple role in this application. Gold's very high electrical conductivity drains electrical charge to earth, and its very high density provides stopping power for electrons in the SEM's electron beam, helping to limit the depth to which the electron beam penetrates the specimen. This improves definition of the position and topography of the specimen surface and increases the spatial resolution of the image. Gold also produces a high output of secondary electrons when irradiated by an electron beam, and these low-energy electrons are the most commonly-used signal source used in the scanning electron microscope.
    # As gold is a good reflector of electromagnetic radiation such as infrared and visible light as well as radio waves, it is used for the protective coatings on many artificial satellites, in infrared protective faceplates in thermal protection suits and astronauts' helmets and in electronic warfare planes like the EA-6B Prowler.
    # Automobiles may use gold for heat insulation. McLaren uses gold foil in the engine compartment of its F1 model.[15]
    # Gold can be manufactured so thin that it appears transparent. It is used in some aircraft cockpit windows for de-icing or anti-icing by passing electricity through it. The heat produced by the resistance of the gold is enough to deter ice from forming.
    The concentration of free electrons in gold metal is 5.901022 cm-3. Gold is highly conductive to electricity, and has been used for electrical wiring in some high energy applications (silver is even more conductive per volume, but gold has the advantage of corrosion resistance). For example, gold electrical wires were used during some of the Manhattan Project's atomic experiments, but large high current silver wires were used in the calutron isotope separator magnets in the project.

    The use of gold in other applications in electronic sliding contacts in highly humid or corrosive atmospheres, and in use for contacts with a very high failure cost (certain computers, communications equipment, spacecraft, jet aircraft engines) remains very common, and is unlikely to be replaced in the near future by any other metal.
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    Re: Court OKs dumping gold mine waste in lake

    Quote Originally Posted by tryreading View Post
    In lake bottoms, mercury can can become more dangerous to us:

    Methylmercury (CH3Hg+) is a neurotoxin, and the form of mercury that is most easily bioaccumulated in organisms. Methylmercury consists of a methyl group bonded to a single mercury atom, and is formed in the environment primarily by a process called biomethylation. Mercury biomethylation is the transformation of divalent inorganic mercury (Hg(II)) to CH3Hg+, and is primarily carried out by sulfate-reducing bacteria that live in anoxic (low dissolved oxygen) environments, such as estuarine and lake-bottom sediments.

    Methylmercury Definition Page
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