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South Carolina Governor Admits to Extramarital Affair (title updated)

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I can hear it now...The Gov. was so stressed from being forced by President Obama to take South Carolina's stimulas money that he had to go get laid to relieve the stress...

Obama made him do it......:mrgreen:




Building strawmen as usual.


He just did a press conference, took full responsibility and didn't try to lecture anyone about what the definition of "is", is.....
 
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Again, this is your rather unsophisticated mischaracterization of my comments. But I truly do appreciate your interest! :2wave:

My remarks about the "family values set" was the hypocritical kicker to the whole shebang. The man (a) abandons his offices, (b) abandons his family,(c) on father's day, no less, to (d) go somewhere unknown for an undetermined amount of time, to (e) do unmentionable things to someone that isn't his spouse.

The man's an utter loser and has completely trashed his political future and personal life with this one stunt.

Cheating on a spouse is crap, whomever does it (Clinton included). It's just crappier crap when the person doing the cheating is a member of the "family values" party.




So it's crappier if you believe in the nuclear family?


You make little sense. That happens when you weasle out of a bad statement.


Family values - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


Learn what "family values" are before you start in on judging someone who is not in your party more harsh than another.


If you want to get factual.


Sanford told his wife and childeren about this affair 5 months ago. Did Clinton afford his family the same courtesy?


Now I find them equally dirt bags. But if I had to pick one over the other, Clinton is the bigger dirtbag.
 
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What an asshole. He shoulda known the Libs were going to wear this crap out. Dumb****.

Horrible, especially considering the Edwards affair barely piqued the right. :roll:
 
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"family Values stance" is used by all politicians. not just republicans. And it's irrellevant if you believe that we are all sinners.


Does the suggestion that family values=republicans, make it worse what he did, (apparently his wife and childeren knew about this affair for 5 months) than what Bill clinton did?



I think this "family values" argument is a lame attack on "the other side".
I did not attribute my angst to either side, also mate I find the blatant use of it in America rather embarrassing.

That particular ploy failed in the UK when Thatcher wished ( I doubt she had an orgasm in her life apart from when the Belgrano was sunk) us all to return to Victorian values, what a load of bollock's, Lloyd George was a fine PM, the fact he was shagging half of Wales and probably a few sheep(its a welsh pastime) in my eyes did not detract from his abilities:)
 
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He should have had the dignity to resign. It's not the affair, it's that he was AWOL from his Governor duties. Now, they should impeach him.
 
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What an asshole. He shoulda known the Libs were going to wear this crap out. Dumb****.

It IS rather unfortunate that the only thing wrong with him having an affair is that Liberals now have something to talk about. Wait...
 
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Who cares? I sometimes laugh when a Senator Craig situation happens showing a politician is a raging hypocrite and a fraud, but as for their sex lives in general? I could not care any less.
 
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Yep, Moral progression.

Doing drugs and becoming a bum.

Sounds like progress to me.

The 60's were about far more than drugs. While you and others may not agree with what people were fighting for, one can't ignore that it was a very powerful and revolutionary time. And what exactly did the 60's have to do with becoming a bum?
 
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Building strawmen as usual.


He just did a press conference, took full responsibility and didn't try to lecture anyone about what the definition of "is", is.....

But did you notice how he just had to throw in with his admissions that the added stresses of dealing with his states issues in reguards to turning down stimulas monies somehow played a role in his stresses and he got shut down. Which as he claims led to his great escape.

In my opinion that was just cop0ut-lame politcal statement. Why at this point throw that whining political trash in there?
 
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I tried to get on the mark davis show this am with my prediction of sex drugs or money.



It was sex.

Men cant think straight with some good stuff in front of them.

I cannot imagine what he thought would happen.
 
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But did you notice how he just had to throw in with his admissions that the added stresses of dealing with his states issues in reguards to turning down stimulas monies somehow played a role in his stresses and he got shut down. Which as he claims led to his great escape.

In my opinion that was just cop0ut-lame politcal statem



ent. Why at this point throw that whining political trash in there?





He did? Sorry if i dont take your word given your history.
 
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Personally, I don't see why politicians are held to such an absurdly high standard in their personal lives. They are humans just like any of us and let me tell you that infidelity is quite common. I don't think that it affects his ability to lead any more than it did Edwards and Clinton. People enjoy sex and sexual taboos. Infidelity, while it is common is still a big taboo.
 
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I'm kinda torn as to whether this is good or bad. For the short term, it will hurt the republicans in general. Not TOO much because they are already as unpopular as near possible, but in the long term, it narrows the field for the 2010 primaries. First ensign and now sanford. Depending on who runs in 2012, this could work in favor of the republicans.
 
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Learn what "family values" are ....

From your link:

Republican Party
Since 1980, the Republican Party has used the issue of family values to attract socially conservative voters. While family values remains a rather vague concept, social conservatives usually understand the term to include some combination of the following principles (also referenced in the 2004 Republican Party platform):

Promotion of traditional marriage and opposition to adultery
Opposition to same-sex marriage
Support for traditional education and parental involvement in that education
Support for policies that encourage "adoption over abortion"
Support for behavior identified as traditional or moral such as respect, discipline, attentiveness, religious commitment
Support for healthy choices such as a nutritious diet, medical screenings, and physical activity
Support for "abstinence education" exclusively regarding risks associated with early sexual activity such as teen pregnancies and sexually transmitted diseases while not teaching such topics of sex education as human sexual behavior, safe sex and birth control.
Support for policies that are said to protect children from obscenity and exploitation.
You're right. Sanford trashed several of the major tenets of the Republican Party.


Sanford told his wife and childeren about this affair 5 months ago. Did Clinton afford his family the same courtesy?

I hate to rain on your I Still Hate Bill Clinton party, but I'm fairly certain this thread has nothing whatsoever to do with former President Clinton. Do you have any further comments on Governor Sanford's unacceptable behavior?
 
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I'm just wondering how the sex life of the Governor of South Carolina is any of my concern. Where is he? Who cares? What is he doing? Can't say I care. Who is he doing it with? Shrug.
 
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Personally, I don't see why politicians are held to such an absurdly high standard in their personal lives.

Me too. The only time I get a laugh out of it is when they put themselves on that platform with their "family values" drivel. As Glinda pointed out, the hypocrisy screams out. If you are going to claim the moral highground you better be prepared for the backlash when you fail. But it's quite true their sex life is none of my business. However, I'll still laugh at people like Larry Craig.

They are humans just like any of us and let me tell you that infidelity is quite common. I don't think that it affects his ability to lead any more than it did Edwards and Clinton.

True that. And it sure as hell does not affect my life.
 
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Personally, I don't see why politicians are held to such an absurdly high standard in their personal lives. They are humans just like any of us and let me tell you that infidelity is quite common. I don't think that it affects his ability to lead any more than it did Edwards and Clinton. People enjoy sex and sexual taboos. Infidelity, while it is common is still a big taboo.

In order to deal on major issues with someone it is generally a good idea to be able to respect them
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If they cannot control themselves privately how can they be expected to show controlled leadership? I realize that is not always the case but in the public eye it is often the appearance that matters most. Look at the last election as an example. No qualifications to speak of, No administrative experience other than the ongoing campaign, yet it still got the people onboard a ship of fools.

Pay the banks, pay the government, follow the exact same policies and still we as a people sign on. When a dog can take up three weeks of a news cycle and the most important accomplishment listed is how he looks in swim trunks then we are all in trouble.


While I like many of Sanfords positions his lack of vision in foreseeing how events played out force me to say "You're fired"!
 
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Is this welsh? :mrgreen:
your wellington boots or mine, I must say Python mate, as a liberal I did get a lot of mileage out of the foot tapping in the airport repub loo guy, what a tosser he was:)
 
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Personally, I don't see why politicians are held to such an absurdly high standard in their personal lives. They are humans just like any of us and let me tell you that infidelity is quite common. I don't think that it affects his ability to lead any more than it did Edwards and Clinton. People enjoy sex and sexual taboos. Infidelity, while it is common is still a big taboo.


For instance they are the party that preaches the sanctity of marriage expecially one's that involve a man and a woman and then go out and preach about fidelity as this governor did.

The Republican party tries to sell itself as the party of family values.

They have set themselves up for this..and they should be held to a higher standard for that.

Or should we just ignore all of the "high morals" preaching that repulicans like this have been doing?
 
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your wellington boots or mine, I must say Python mate, as a liberal I did get a lot of mileage out of the foot tapping in the airport repub loo guy, what a tosser he was:)

:lol: i bet we could drink us some pints brother! :thumbs:
 
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For instance they are the party that preaches the sanctity of marriage expecially one's that involve a man and a woman and then go out and preach about fidelity as this governor did.

The Republican party tries to sell itself as the party of family values.

They have set themselves up for this..and they should be held to a higher standard for that.

Or should we just ignore all of the "high morals" preaching that repulicans like this have been doing?

So what? We are all hypocrites in our own way.
 
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