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    Re: Al Qaeda says would use Pakistani nuclear weapons

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    And there you go again putting your foot in your mouth, by not reading correctly. NOWHERE did I say the U.S. WAS antagonizing, I was saying that is is what Councilman wants the U.S. to do.

    Chew on that foot TD.
    Good lord, what does one need, crayon with you? Your statements were directed at Councilman but they PRESUME that the US would be the antagonizer when it is the despotic nations who are already antagonizing, which was MY point.

    Why do you continually act so obtuse and run away from your own absurd comments?

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    Re: Al Qaeda says would use Pakistani nuclear weapons

    Quote Originally Posted by Truth Detector View Post
    Good lord, what does one need, crayon with you? Your statements were directed at Councilman but they PRESUME that the US would be the antagonizer when it is the despotic nations who are already antagonizing, which was MY point.

    Why do you continually act so obtuse and run away from your own absurd comments?
    The only thing here is your assumption which was proven to be totally false.

    The words are there and NOWHERE did I state the U.S. was antagonizing other leaders.

    You just wanted to throw in a partisan mantrum and got called on it instead.

    EPIC fail on your part.

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    Re: Al Qaeda says would use Pakistani nuclear weapons

    I have always wondered why the Granola Liberals became part of the blame America first crowd, they were the creators of such lovely organizations as the KKK, and claim to be for human rights but support the killing of the defenseless unborn and defend despotic idiots like Kin Jung Il.
    When are they going to put America and Americans first and support the treaties and defense agreements we have around the world. These days there are some who fear that Obama is going to continue to play the great appeaser with Iran, and let N. Korea push us into a corner before he acts. And he is seemingly doing nothing to insure that Parkistan is victorious in the fight against Al Qaeda, when he should be bending over back words to support them with military weapons and what ever else they need.
    The U.S has nothing to fear these days except the growing number of Granola Liberals that put their party in front of the good of the Nation and the peace of the world. Sometimes you have to defeat an enemy before there can be peace. Talking about it gives the enemy strength and emboldens them. Obama seems to want to play footsie with the Muslims and destroy our military all while taxing America into third world status. It seems he's well on his way to those ends and and won't be happy till his dream and claim that U.S. is the biggest Muslim Country in the World is a reality.
    It's amazing how many Granola Liberals can't see this when it is clear and becomes more evident everyday along with the dictator like act of nationalizing one business after another when there is nothing in the Constitution that permits it.
    In 1960 Nikita Khrushchev said to the U.S. "We Will Defeat You Without Firing A Shot". It seemed as though under Ronald Reagan we were the victors without firing a shot and now because of rampant unchecked Granola Liberals we face the end of America as we know it in favor of a pro Muslim Dictator who doesn't have the guts to stand up to despots or support the ones who do.

    In Obaba's own words while talking with George Stephanopoulos.
    Obama: "You're absolutely right that John McCain has not ah talked Muslim faith and you're absolutely right that is not som".
    Stephanopoulos: "Your Christian faith".
    Obama: "My Christian faith".
    Classic Freudian slip. A Freudian slip is defined as; A verbal mistake that is thought to reveal an unconscious belief, thought, or emotion. In other words the truth.
    Last edited by Councilman; 06-23-09 at 07:04 PM.

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    Re: Al Qaeda says would use Pakistani nuclear weapons

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    Exactly how many wars do you want to fight at the same time? NK, Iran, and now you want to attack Pakistan? Gimme a break.
    I have no interest in fighting period. Once attacked I am interested in merely winning quickly and ferociously.

    No war is ever won on defense.
    Thank you

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    Re: Al Qaeda says would use Pakistani nuclear weapons

    Quote Originally Posted by Councilman View Post
    In other words the truth.
    There are plenty of reasons to denigrate, despise, and denounce Dear Leader. The "muslim faith" canard is most emphatically not among them.

    Your words lose all merit by its repetition.

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    Re: Al Qaeda says would use Pakistani nuclear weapons

    Quote Originally Posted by celticlord View Post
    There are plenty of reasons to denigrate, despise, and denounce Dear Leader. The "muslim faith" canard is most emphatically not among them.

    Your words lose all merit by its repetition.
    Having the credentials I carry with in my wallet and in my heart I can assure you it is not the mans faith that is in question and I am amazed at those who love to to wave a false flag and constantly claim it's either his race or religion some of us object to. It is his actions with regard to him seemingly placing his religion above the well being of the country and making decisions and taking actions the either favor Muslims or ignore them when action or a cogent response would serve the Nation and our people better. I had high hopes he would not fail because failure effects us all and not in a positive manner. So far he is a failure to me and it will take many years to undo the damage. If it is ever to be fixed by someone working for the Country and not just his own agenda.

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    Re: Al Qaeda says would use Pakistani nuclear weapons

    Quote Originally Posted by Councilman View Post
    Pakistan is weak and doing less than is needed to fight the threat. Not only that but reports of sympathy by some in population of Pakistan to al Qaeda's insurgency is not helping. The current leadership in Pakistan is weak and may not prevail in even in the short term.
    Don't count on the status quo to hold for long, our shows of weakness do nothing but embolden those who would have us dead talks or no talks.
    Au contraire Pakistan seams to be doing a pretty good job
    Al Jazeera English - CENTRAL/S. ASIA - Pakistan 'nears Swat victory'

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    Re: Al Qaeda says would use Pakistani nuclear weapons

    For Pakistan to to be doing a good job they also have to have the backing of their own people which is questionable at this point. Imagine an insurgent army coming into this country in force. Can you see our population allowing it to gain a major foot hold and spread its murderous web and control. I realize that efforts by the Mexican drug lords are trying to do just that in places along the border and as deep inside the U.S. as Oregon with a major push under way quietly under the radar in Phoenix AZ. but they will not succeed because even with Obama at the helm there enough true patriots to fight it because we have the will because of our past and faith in our form of Government if not the current administration. Those qualities are questionable in Pakistan not only from the leadership but down to the people in the towns and villages.
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    Re: Al Qaeda says would use Pakistani nuclear weapons

    Quote Originally Posted by Councilman View Post
    For Pakistan to to be doing a good job they also have to have the backing of their own people which is questionable at this point. Imagine an insurgent army coming into this country in force. Can you see our population allowing it to gain a major foot hold and spread its murderous web and control. I realize that efforts by the Mexican drug lords are trying to do just that in places along the border and as deep inside the U.S. as Oregon with a major push under way quietly under the radar in Phoenix AZ. but they will not succeed because even with Obama at the helm there enough true patriots to fight it because we have the will because of our past and faith in our form of Government if not the current administration. Those qualities are questionable in Pakistan not only from the leadership but down to the people in the towns and villages.
    In Swat maybe but elsewhere I think its fair to say that most of the population are opossed to the Taliban, hence why the Islamist partys in Pakistan tend to lose elections, rarely getting more then 10% of the vote. There was even a news story posted on here a short while back about how local people drove the taliban out of a town they tried to take.

    It would be tragic to ruin this favorable situation by storming in and flattening the place. We,ve already seen in Afganistan how a population largely opossed to the taliban, who played an essential role in overthrowing it, ended up on their side due to our ****ups. I would hate to see a repeat of that situation.
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    Re: Al Qaeda says would use Pakistani nuclear weapons

    Quote Originally Posted by Lopettaa View Post
    This is not news. Al Qaeda is not in a position to do this.
    Pakistan is allied to the West.
    It took anti-Afghani Pakistani militias to hault the advance of the Taliban before the Pakistani military could provide a counterattack, they won but let's not fool ourselves it is a very precarious situation there still. It is time to completely get rid of the Rumsfeld doctrine and put a whole **** load of battle hardened Iraqi veterans on the Eastern Border as the Pakistanis have finally stepped up. Iraq war is over, it is time to finish the job.

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