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    Re: Obama to Sign Anti-Smoking Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr_Patrick View Post
    Every single time I see how much cigarettes cost I am so thankful that I quit. There's no way I could afford to smoke at the rate that I was back then.
    How much are they? I've never smoked a cigarette in my life.
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    Re: Obama to Sign Anti-Smoking Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    We have to ask ourselves. "liberty or prohibition", with liberty comes responsibility. Who in this country does not know that smoking cigarettes will kill you?


    Why is it, that a FEDERAL law is required to curb a legal product? Alchohol is far more deadly I believe, will flavored martinis ever be on the short list for this statist act?


    My feeling are this "law" infringes on freedom just a bit more. It is a clear example of "incrementalism" and "statism" at work.
    I could not agree more with your assessment. We know the risks now and it's about free will. We are moving toward what one of the heroes of WWII Sir Wenston Churchill called the "NANNY STATE" where everything is decided for you and your choices receive no consideration what ever.

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    Re: Obama to Sign Anti-Smoking Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by stekim View Post
    How much are they? I've never smoked a cigarette in my life.
    Well, they used to be significantly cheaper in Montana, but now they are about the same here as they are elsewhere. Last I checked they were about $6/pack. When I smoked they were a little over $2 / pack

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    Re: Obama to Sign Anti-Smoking Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr_Patrick View Post
    Well, they used to be significantly cheaper in Montana, but now they are about the same here as they are elsewhere. Last I checked they were about $6/pack. When I smoked they were a little over $2 / pack

    Wow. 2 packs a day would be $4,380 a year. Not good.
    Wow. Am I awesome or what?

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    Re: Obama to Sign Anti-Smoking Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr_Patrick View Post
    Well, they used to be significantly cheaper in Montana, but now they are about the same here as they are elsewhere. Last I checked they were about $6/pack. When I smoked they were a little over $2 / pack
    Hate to date myself but when I started they were $.25 a pack and there were vending machines everywhere and it was okay to smoke everywhere even in the grocery stores a whole carton was less than $3 in the 1960s, Bread $.15 loaf. Hamburgers were $.15 and gas was as low as 22.9 a gal. a new mutang was about $2000 and a Corvette was about $3500. And the "NANNY STATE" was way in the future.

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    Re: Obama to Sign Anti-Smoking Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    If tobacco is so bad, why not just ban it outright?
    Why suffer thru all this BS?
    I agree but you have to remember that prohibition doesn't go over too well in America. The best way is to chip away at the substance and call it something else. Presumably with the word Family in it so that bovine America thinks its protection not prohibition.
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    Re: Obama to Sign Anti-Smoking Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Catman View Post
    After the law is signed, will Obama quit?
    The AP radio news cast said -- seriously -- that the prsident has a "nicotine addiction." As though crude terms such as "he is a smoker," are not to be attached to holy figures.
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    Re: Obama to Sign Anti-Smoking Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    We have to ask ourselves. "liberty or prohibition", with liberty comes responsibility. Who in this country does not know that smoking cigarettes will kill you?


    Why is it, that a FEDERAL law is required to curb a legal product? Alchohol is far more deadly I believe, will flavored martinis ever be on the short list for this statist act?


    My feeling are this "law" infringes on freedom just a bit more. It is a clear example of "incrementalism" and "statism" at work.
    I don't have any problems with anything in the law. Canada has pretty much been doing the same thing for years. It's really funny how it discourages smoking when you actually have to look at what's in a cigarette along with a picture of a blackened lung every time you go to pull one out.

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    Re: Obama to Sign Anti-Smoking Bill

    I'm someone who believes that the mind has a profound effect on the body, and seeing those images which tell you that you WILL get cancer if you smoke them is not healthy for the mind. A lot of people have been smoking their whole lives with no problem.

    If I were a smoker, at this point I would just consider growing tobacco illegally in my backyard. Even though it's still bad for you, it would have far less additives, and a few plants would supply a large yield. I'm more against bigger government than I am against tobacco smoking.

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    Re: Obama to Sign Anti-Smoking Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Oftencold View Post
    The AP radio news cast said -- seriously -- that the prsident has a "nicotine addiction." As though crude terms such as "he is a smoker," are not to be attached to holy figures.
    Its common. When I'm smoking, I'm a smoker. When I'm quitting, I'm addicted.
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