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    Re: Her name was Neda - in death she is rallying cry for Iranian protests

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    First off, when you see her eyes become unfocused, it isn't because she's in shock, it's because she has started to bleed out. I've seen several victims with chest wounds, more than a few had oral and nasal bleeding. She literally drowned on her own blood while bleeding to death.
    The massive bleed out results in near instantaneous shock, most of the time.

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    Re: Her name was Neda - in death she is rallying cry for Iranian protests

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    I agree, however, I could not buy the blood flowing so from her face.

    If her lungs are filling with blood, that drops her blood pressure, she's losing blood out the front and back wounds... note the blood is pooled at her feet.?
    No. Actually, it looks, based upon the bright red color of the blood and its location, that the bullet hit both her aorta and her esophagus. The blood would be leaving the heart with a great deal of force, the lungs fill up, and then there is nowhere for the blood to go but up the esophagus and out the mouth/nose.
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    Re: Her name was Neda - in death she is rallying cry for Iranian protests

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    When you claim something IS, you do not claim an opinion you claim a fact. If you think something, you say I THINK.

    Sorry it is the English language, sorry that escapes you.
    It's pretty easy to tell when one is giving their opinion. I understand the English language perfectly well, and I always knew Mr. V was giving his opinion on this issue. Let me remind you that I wasn't the one that went off the deep end shrieking about whether he was a video expert or not.
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    Re: Her name was Neda - in death she is rallying cry for Iranian protests

    Quote Originally Posted by celticlord View Post
    It's called dumb luck. The stuff Pulitzer Prize photos are generally made of.
    I won't argue that, and I admit, I could be wrong, for many reasons I HOPE I am. But I am also skeptical of internet video's.

    Remember that BS Palestinian kid dying in his dads arms? Yeah, it was faked.

    Eight years ago, the world stopped by the horror vision of a man and his son being caught in the middle of fire between Israeli and Palestinians. The man was wounded and his son was allegedly killed by the Israeli forces.
    After some research, a documentary came out showing that this event was totally staged by the Palestinian fighters and their journalist counter-parts to sell a twisted vision of the conflict.

    Nowadays, the use of leftist media outlets (CNN, Reuters, etc) as proxies of the terror networks are common ground, but it seems that something emerged from the surface from time to time, afterall. H/T Little Green Footballs

    Boy's death on video is a fake, blog says
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    WASHINGTON, Jan. 13 (UPI) -- A video of a 12-year-old boy allegedly killed in Gaza by an Israeli drone-fired missile, aired on CNN, is a fake, U.S. bloggers claim.
    Dramatic video shot by the boy's older brother shows doctors trying to save the boy, his grieving family and the first part of a burial, IsraelNN.com reported. The family said the boy and a 14-year-old cousin were playing on their roof when they were by a missile fired by an Israeli drone supplied by the United States.
    But IsraelNN.com said Charles Johnson 's U.S. blog Little Green Footballs uncovered several alleged discrepancies:
    The family did not say how it knew a drone was involved, and no family member claimed to have witnessed the attack; doctors were massaging the child's stomach lightly, instead of vigorously massaging his chest; the boy was supposedly wounded everywhere by shrapnel, but there were no visible wounds on his head; and the rooftop on which he was purportedly killed showed only a small amount of damage.
    CNN is standing by the report, IsraelNN said. The Israeli military said it had no knowledge of the incident.
    swimming against the red tide: Another Faked "Death" of Palestinian Boy?

    You can find other sources with a quick google.
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    Re: Her name was Neda - in death she is rallying cry for Iranian protests

    Quote Originally Posted by hiswoman View Post
    The massive bleed out results in near instantaneous shock, most of the time.
    Yeah, but Vicchio is under the impression that a victim who's hit in the heart is cognizant enough to mug for the camera. People hit in those regions bleed out so fast that they are gone in seconds. When her eyes became unfocused, it was because she'd lost consciousness and then died.

    I, frankly, wish I didn't know what it looks like when people die.

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    Re: Her name was Neda - in death she is rallying cry for Iranian protests

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    Sorry you got caught in YOUR OWN QUOTE.
    You're not even man enough to admit you made a mistake in YOUR OWN QUOTE.

    Sad that "Go suck an egg" is your best quip to positing out YOUR ERROR.
    Keep trolling, I'll keep reporting your ass for this childishness.

    I never claimed to be a video expert, and you keep trying to say I did. Keep it up.

    I never stated "As a video expert it is my proffessional assertion that this video is fake".

    We're on an OPINION BASED DEBATE forum. So BUGGER OFF troll.
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    Re: Her name was Neda - in death she is rallying cry for Iranian protests

    Quote Originally Posted by Moon View Post
    It's pretty easy to tell when one is giving their opinion. I understand the English language perfectly well, and I always knew Mr. V was giving his opinion on this issue. Let me remind you that I wasn't the one that went off the deep end shrieking about whether he was a video expert or not.
    We all know why you side with Mr. V. Don't even try to play that game. He wasn't stating an opinion, he was stating it as a fact, when it wasn't one.

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    Re: Her name was Neda - in death she is rallying cry for Iranian protests

    Quote Originally Posted by Moon View Post
    It's pretty easy to tell when one is giving their opinion. I understand the English language perfectly well, and I always knew Mr. V was giving his opinion on this issue. Let me remind you that I wasn't the one that went off the deep end shrieking about whether he was a video expert or not.
    Not all opinions have equal merit.

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    Re: Her name was Neda - in death she is rallying cry for Iranian protests

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    Keep trolling, I'll keep reporting your ass for this childishness.

    I never claimed to be an expert, and you keep trying to say I did. Keep it up.
    No you just claimed it was fake. Only an expert could do that, so obviously you thought yourself as one.

    You can report all you want, I used YOUR QUOTE and took it for what it was.

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    Re: Her name was Neda - in death she is rallying cry for Iranian protests

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    We all know why you side with Mr. V. Don't even try to play that game. He wasn't stating an opinion, he was stating it as a fact, when it wasn't one.
    What game are you talking about? I'm "siding" with him because I know he was stating his opinion. I didn't say I agreed with it.
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