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    Re: McCain: Obama has done well, but hasn't been bipartisan [edited]

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    Yup, hyperpartisan.


    Personally I say a plague on both their houses. It's a pipe dream but I'd like to see the Libertarians have a turn in the Big House.
    Maybe the Libertarians could flush a few toilets up there.

    As far as bipartisanship is concerned; if you don't do it my way you're not bipartisan.

    The American people come the closest to bipartisanship by alternating Democrat and Republican Presidents. That's the closest we come to balancing things out.

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    Re: McCain: Obama has done well, but hasn't been bipartisan [edited]

    Quote Originally Posted by TBone View Post
    Really, can you give me some examples where Bush bent over backwards?
    Inviting Ted Kennedy, of all people, over to help write the education bill, for one.

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    Re: McCain: Obama has done well, but hasn't been bipartisan [edited]

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    Hyperpartisan much?

    I didn't like Bush because he bent over backwards to compromise with the Left far more than I thought there was any call for.
    Oh, ye of short and rather distorted memory...

    The first day in office, Bush and crew accused the Clinton WH staff of deliberately trashing the West Wing offices before leaving. An investigation into the matter found the accusations baseless, totally without merit.

    Bush didn't look up the bipartisanizer until after the 2006 mid-terms. Before that, he was the Decider.

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    Re: McCain: Obama has done well, but hasn't been bipartisan [edited]

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    When Bush had the WH and the congress, I did not hear alot of sympathy from the right for the lack of power democrats had. I don't feel bad now when the situation is reversed.
    Similarly, when Bush was in the WH and Republicans had the congress, I did hear a lot of demands for bipartisanship and calls of how a full one party government is dangerous and should be avoided no matter what by many democrats. I don't feel bad now when the situation is reversed and suddenly they're going "How DARE you want bipartisanship. Your side lost".

    Quote Originally Posted by TBone View Post
    Really, can you give me some examples where Bush bent over backwards?
    No Child Left Behind brought Ted Kennedy, a ranking democrat in the senate, in to work on it.

    The Perscription Drug plan.

    Illegal Immigration where he was continually trying to be bipartisan and try and work towards "comprehensive" (See amnesty) reform rather than do what the conservatives wanted and simply secure it first.

    The only real place that Bush was stingently uncompromising for the most part was the War.

    But ultimately, yes, while Bush attempted a Bipartisan lean in some things he was not exactly "Joe Bipartisan" or mr "uniter" like he was made out to be. And the left SLAMMED him for it. At the same time, Obama was running on a platform that he was going to bring in Republicans to work with him and try to get away from partisanship....yet if some of you are going to blame the Bush Administrations possible stupid moves on Bush, you must blame Obama's administrations stupid moves (like targetting Rush) on him as well.

    Much like you're saying Redress. When many of these people who used to criticize Bush for being "The Decider" and not being a uniter and backing down on his campaign promise turn around and then want to say how Obama isn't really responsible for bipartisanship its the congress, or turn around and say it doesn't matter your side lost, or other such things it strains their credibility and my desire to give a **** what they think.

    Its become a sad fact in our political world that Bipartisanship is something that's helpful for you if you talk the talk, but every politician knows is likely to actually hurt you if you walk the walk.

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    Re: McCain: Obama has done well, but hasn't been bipartisan [edited]

    Quote Originally Posted by formerroadie View Post
    If you can't come up with better ideas for our country than the same ol same ol, then just quit, go home, become private citizens, and let people who have a vision for the future do their jobs
    Rather ironic statement, given that The Obama is offering nothing but "the same ol same ol".

    Tell me:
    If you believe the "vision" that The Obama has for the future is exactly the opposite of what is good for the country, why would you do anything BUT oppose it?

    The republicans have done little to reach across the aisle.
    Psst... the GOP isn't in power.

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    Re: McCain: Obama has done well, but hasn't been bipartisan [edited]

    While I'm cringing through every bit of what Obama is doing to this country, I want he and his fellow liberals to own every bit of it. Conservatives need to stay far, far away.

    The Democrats can do anything they want now. Not sure why they spend so much time yapping about Republicans these days, other than to distract from what they know is turning out to be a royal f-up of the highest order.

    I mean, we're ALL chomping at the bit for that nationalized healthcare, aren't we?

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    Re: McCain: Obama has done well, but hasn't been bipartisan [edited]

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    I mean, we're ALL chomping at the bit for that nationalized healthcare, aren't we?
    Nationalization, led by socialists...
    Hmmm.

    But, you're right -- the GOP can't do a THING to stop The Obama getting everything He wants; to try to blame it for any failures in that regard is sheer intellectual dishonesty and simple partisan bigotry.

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    Re: McCain: Obama has done well, but hasn't been bipartisan [edited]

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    Similarly, when Bush was in the WH and Republicans had the congress, I did hear a lot of demands for bipartisanship and calls of how a full one party government is dangerous and should be avoided no matter what by many democrats. I don't feel bad now when the situation is reversed and suddenly they're going "How DARE you want bipartisanship. Your side lost".
    This is true. It's the nature of politics. The basic truth is, we democrats lost elections, and lost power due to it. Now the wheel has spun a bit, and we have the power and republicans lack it. Eventually, the wheel will spin a bit more, and we will be the ones on the outside looking in.

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