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    Greece demands UK return Elgin marbles

    Greece demands marbles return as new Acropolis opens - Yahoo! News

    Prime ministers and ministers of culture from around the world, along with the president of Unesco, gathered in Athens to witness the opening of the €130 million (£110 million) glass and concrete building a few hundred yards from the foot of the Parthenon.

    However, there was a conspicuous absence of British and European Union senior ministers who had been invited to the opening of the building that Greece's culture minister said is the physical embodiment of a campaign dating back to 1983 to secure the return of the Parthenon marbles from the British Museum
    "The British said we don't deserve the Parthenon sculptures because we have nowhere to put them," Mr Samaras told the foreign press. "Now, though, we have one of the best museums in the world."

    Last week Mr Samaras dismissed an offer by the British Museum, which claims ownership of the Parthenon, or Elgin marbles, to lend them to Greece for three months on condition that Greece recognised the British Museum as legal owner.
    I agree with UK on this, we shouldn't return it.
    Possession is nine-tenths of the law, we bought it fair and square.


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    Re: Greece demands UK return Elgin marbles



    (The Marbles)


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    Re: Greece demands UK return Elgin marbles

    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post


    (The Marbles)
    Its beautiful but how did they acquire it? and from whom did they get it from?
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    Re: Greece demands UK return Elgin marbles

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    Its beautiful but how did they acquire it? and from whom did they get it from?
    It is very beautiful, its even more stunning when you see it close up and within touching distance.
    You can see such works of art for free at the British Museum in which millions around the world do see every year. There is no case for Greece imo.

    The Turks controlled Greece back in the colonial days, an ambassador to the Ottoman Court 'Lord Elgin' bought it from the turks with their permission and years later the British Museum bought in 1816 from Lord Elgin and protected it. There is no guarantee that the marbles wouldn't have been destroyed under the times of war between Greece and Turkey

    It is legally ours and no amount of "pressure" should make us give it up.
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    Re: Greece demands UK return Elgin marbles

    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post
    It is very beautiful, its even more stunning when you see it close up and within touching distance.
    You can see such works of art for free at the British Museum in which millions around the world do see every year. There is no case for Greece imo.

    The Turks controlled Greece back in the colonial days, an ambassador to the Ottoman Court 'Lord Elgin' bought it from the turks with their permission and years later the British Museum bought in 1816 from Lord Elgin and protected it. There is no guarantee that the marbles wouldn't have been destroyed under the times of war between Greece and Turkey

    It is legally ours and no amount of "pressure" should make us give it up.
    That does make sense.

    You don't control it, it isn't yours.

    I have to make a trip to the U.K. sooner or later.
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    Re: Greece demands UK return Elgin marbles

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    That does make sense.

    You don't control it, it isn't yours.

    I have to make a trip to the U.K. sooner or later.
    Not mine personally obviously [I do wish i did have such work of art tho but i am not so lucky]

    I mean property of the British Museum and because it is state owned, property of the UK.


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    Re: Greece demands UK return Elgin marbles

    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post
    Not mine personally obviously [I do wish i did have such work of art tho but i am not so lucky]

    I mean property of the British Museum and because it is state owned, property of the UK.
    I got yea.
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    Re: Greece demands UK return Elgin marbles

    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post
    It is very beautiful, its even more stunning when you see it close up and within touching distance.
    You can see such works of art for free at the British Museum in which millions around the world do see every year. There is no case for Greece imo.

    The Turks controlled Greece back in the colonial days, an ambassador to the Ottoman Court 'Lord Elgin' bought it from the turks with their permission and years later the British Museum brought in 1816 from Lord Elgin and protected it. There is no guarantee that the marbles wouldn't have been destroyed under the times of war between Greece and Turkey

    It is legally ours and no amount of "pressure" should make us give it up.
    Legally but Morally? plenty of art that was stolen from jews,that then went through legal sales has been returned by owners who had morals.

    Free Museums do you pay tax?

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    Re: Greece demands UK return Elgin marbles

    Quote Originally Posted by B L Zeebub View Post
    Legally but Morally? plenty of art that was stolen from jews,that then went through legal sales has been returned by owners who had morals.

    Free Museums do you pay tax?
    Obviously ... do you?

    Screw morals, it is our legal stance that matters in this world. What is Greece going to do? Take us to court?
    When did we steal it?
    Don't try and bring up external cases for this one. UK stole none of these marbles, we bought and purchased them fair and square.
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    Re: Greece demands UK return Elgin marbles

    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post
    Obviously ... do you?

    Screw morals, it is our legal stance that matters in this world. What is Greece going to do? Take us to court?
    When did we steal it?
    Don't try and bring up external cases for this one. UK stole none of these marbles, we bought and purchased them fair and square.
    From the Greeks?

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