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    Re: Mousavi spokesman calls Khamenei a dictator

    I see absolutely nothing happening in Iran but the conditions favorable for the ascendancy of a far more rigid dictatorship.

    An impromptu uprising, with little in the way of a central guiding philosophy, almost no clearly defined goals, no firm leaders and above all, no arms is very likely to be suppressed with a massive application of automatic gunfire.

    Whichever despot is first to seize control of the military and begin firing will probably declare himself supreme leader.

    The new regime may be secular, or it might be an even more repressive theocracy.

    In my opinion, the uprising and the protesters are doomed.
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    Recall the sad lesson of hungaery 1956

    Quote Originally Posted by Triad View Post
    I'm pretty sure this guy is in France. If not its another spokesman that is...

    Now I hope he is expressing a more militant anti-theocracy held by the people in the streets of Tehran. BUT with all the disinformation rumors etc going around..who knows if its them or just his personal opinion..who knows if Mousavi has even talked to this guy in a week.

    Hope its true..hope it turns into a revolution...hope the USA gets a president that vocally supports it without long winded pontifications and broad loopholes in language. Its pretty sad that the former is more likely then the later.
    I of course am fully supporting the opposition in Iran but I also know well the limits of what a US president can do. I also know that a US President needs to be carefull not to give false hope to the Iranian opposition.

    I was a kid when the Hunagarians revolted against the Red monsters. The US through RADO FREE EUROPE and RADIO LIBERTY was encourgaing them. What the poor Hungarians didn't realized was that was all it WAS "ENCOURAGEMENT.

    When the Soviets sent in the Red army to squash the revolt the poor Hunagarians waited and waited for US and allied troops to come in and reque them. No such luck.

    I realize that this is not exactly the same but Obama cannot over-encourage the Iranian oppostion into a false sense of support.

    Are we ready to invade Iran !! I hardly think so. If we did wouldn't the opposition close ranks with the Mullah Bombula's ? Ya betcha !
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    Re: Mousavi spokesman calls Khamenei a dictator

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Reformist in a relative way. He would not enact any significant changes from what I can see, and any he tried he would not be able to get past the Guardian Council. Mohammad Khatami was a reformer, and his attempts got shot down pretty consistantly.
    You when President Obama said that there would not be that fundamental a diference in the realtionship between the forces of "opposition" and the current gang of thugs he was correct. He should not have made that public but he is correct.
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    Re: Mousavi spokesman calls Khamenei a dictator

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    With the government cracking down on protesters more forcefully now...I think this is the beginning of the end for the protests, unfortunately. But we'll see.
    I think you're right.
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    Re: Mousavi spokesman calls Khamenei a dictator

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    I speak for Mousavi. And Iran | Mohsen Makhmalbaf | Comment is free | The Guardian



    I think this is the first instance of direct confrontation between Mousavi and Khamenei. Up until now, Mousavi has been hesitant to directly attack the Supreme Leader. Whatever happens in the coming days, Khamenei's credibility among the ruling class has been severely damaged.
    Still indirect but a good start. Mousavi is in serious danger now, he is now seen as challenging the theocratic closed circle of power. Count me surprised I didn't think he had any real reformist credentials whatsoever.

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    Re: Mousavi spokesman calls Khamenei a dictator

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    With the government cracking down on protesters more forcefully now...I think this is the beginning of the end for the protests, unfortunately. But we'll see.
    I heard on CNN at about 6:45 -7:00 EST today that there are unconfirmed "reports" that a 100 + demonstrators have been killed. Since the media has been cut out of Iran CNN is getting these s "reports" via twitter.

    Again they said that these are amiture reports not reporters who made these "reports".
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    Re: Mousavi spokesman calls Khamenei a dictator

    CNN is now reporting that "At least 19 people died after clashes Saturday in Tehran." That was not from tweets or from twits that appaerast be good information.
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