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    Re: Mousavi spokesman calls Khamenei a dictator

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    And Mousavi will just repress them himself, after they die for him. Unfortunately, I think that the most innocent and noble of players in this are going to suffer for a bunch of corrupt old men, and no significant change in the country will result.
    I think its more the level of repression the Iranians care about, not the fact that they are getting repressed

    Anyway, i thought this mousavi man admired the west and was a "reformist"?
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    Re: Mousavi spokesman calls Khamenei a dictator

    Quote Originally Posted by kaya'08 View Post
    I think its more the level of repression the Iranians care about, not the fact that they are getting repressed

    Anyway, i thought this mousavi man admired the west and was a "reformist"?
    Reformist in a relative way. He would not enact any significant changes from what I can see, and any he tried he would not be able to get past the Guardian Council. Mohammad Khatami was a reformer, and his attempts got shot down pretty consistantly.

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    Re: Mousavi spokesman calls Khamenei a dictator

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Reformist in a relative way. He would not enact any significant changes from what I can see, and any he tried he would not be able to get past the Guardian Council. Mohammad Khatami was a reformer, and his attempts got shot down pretty consistantly.
    So its the Ayatollah's that are opressing the Iranians, not Mousavi. Ive never seen or heard anything that would indicate Mousavi's policies reflect that of a dictatorship like the Gaurdian Councils little bitch Ahmedenijad.
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    Re: Mousavi spokesman calls Khamenei a dictator

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    Sadly, probably his strength. I think that the more he cracks down, the stronger his position gets. He may have to make some token concessions to the reformists, but he'll probably still be running the show.

    But I'd love to be proven wrong about that.
    Much depends on how much Mousavi can inspire the protesters.

    When the Shah was deposed by Khomeni, he at first attempted to quash the protests with force--with the result being further protest.

    Tienanmen Square and Timişoara are good object lessons here. In Tienanmen Square, China's Politburo used overwhelming force to disperse a peaceful protest, using sufficient force to keep protests at bay until the movement had fragmented and lost all momentum. In Timişoara, Ceaucescu underestimated the depths of passions of the people arrayed against him, failed to bring massive force to bear, and his attempt to arrest and evict László Tőkés touched of a mass and largely spontaneous uprising.

    Khameni is cracking down. Is he doing too little, too late, or is he finally roused in his wrath and showing his power?

    Tehran 1999 was Tienanmen Square redux. Is Tehran 2009 Tienanmen Square redux, or Timişoara redux?

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    Re: Mousavi spokesman calls Khamenei a dictator

    CNN is reporting that people close to Mousavi are saying he is "ready for martyrdom" if necessary.

    Iran security forces use tear gas, clubs on protesters, witnesses say - CNN.com
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    Re: Mousavi spokesman calls Khamenei a dictator

    By employing and condoning the Basiji, the Supreme Leader has proven he is not a man of God, not a representative of Mohammed or the Koran, but simply a thug in a turban, manipulating the people of Iran for the pleasure of power.

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    Re: Mousavi spokesman calls Khamenei a dictator

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    I speak for Mousavi. And Iran | Mohsen Makhmalbaf | Comment is free | The Guardian

    I think this is the first instance of direct confrontation between Mousavi and Khamenei. Up until now, Mousavi has been hesitant to directly attack the Supreme Leader. Whatever happens in the coming days, Khamenei's credibility among the ruling class has been severely damaged.
    I think that the Supreme Grand Great Poompa-Uumppa leader is insulted because those pesky students are out there demonstrating for their rights.

    I tell you those Iraniac students have THE AUDACITY to HOPE for a democratic Iranistan !!
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    Re: Mousavi spokesman calls Khamenei a dictator

    Quote Originally Posted by WillRockwell View Post
    By employing and condoning the Basiji, the Supreme Leader has proven he is not a man of God, not a representative of Mohammed or the Koran, but simply a thug in a turban, manipulating the people of Iran for the pleasure of power.
    a "a thug in a turban" ! You evil insulting Western Imperialist how dare you attack The Great Poompa Uumppa leader !! a fatwat will be placed upon you.
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    Re: Mousavi spokesman calls Khamenei a dictator

    I'm pretty sure this guy is in France. If not its another spokesman that is...

    Now I hope he is expressing a more militant anti-theocracy held by the people in the streets of Tehran. BUT with all the disinformation rumors etc going around..who knows if its them or just his personal opinion..who knows if Mousavi has even talked to this guy in a week.

    Hope its true..hope it turns into a revolution...hope the USA gets a president that vocally supports it without long winded pontifications and broad loopholes in language. Its pretty sad that the former is more likely then the later.
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    Re: Mousavi spokesman calls Khamenei a dictator

    With the government cracking down on protesters more forcefully now...I think this is the beginning of the end for the protests, unfortunately. But we'll see.
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