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France considers banning the burqa

IMO, the French are doing the right thing.
One reason is to uphold French nationalism and their culture.

The Arabs are free to go home.

They are also closer than we are to the Islamic terrorism, too much can be hidden under these vestments/attire..
Anyway, its their nation, their laws..
This is probably upsetting to the Islamics and their supporters....
Too bad:mrgreen:
 
IMO, the French are doing the right thing.
One reason is to uphold French nationalism and their culture.

The Arabs are free to go home.

They are also closer than we are to the Islamic terrorism, too much can be hidden under these vestments/attire..
Anyway, its their nation, their laws..
This is probably upsetting to the Islamics and their supporters....
Too bad:mrgreen:

Just one little problem, there. The "Arabs" are already home. Many of them are French citizens.
 
I seem to remember that in Turkey it is against the law to wear any form of religious garb in public unless you are going to a Mosque, Church, ect from your home and then back to your home, does that still apply and if it does its a good idea

And Turkey wishes to join the civilized world ?
This is a stupid law, one very difficult and costly to enforce..
Ours is not the only nation with intellectually challenged lawmakers.
 
And Turkey wishes to join the civilized world ?
This is a stupid law, one very difficult and costly to enforce..
Ours is not the only nation with intellectually challenged lawmakers.
Which law are you talking about worm, the Turkish law that was established by Atatürk, or the law that some are attempting to bring in in France?
 
And Turkey wishes to join the civilized world ?
This is a stupid law, one very difficult and costly to enforce..
Ours is not the only nation with intellectually challenged lawmakers.

Well actually its not illegal to wear headscarfs in public.
Its illegal to wear them in government run institutions such as the police force, educational academies, etc. In public and on the street is perfectly acceptable, though they are not encouraged to do so.
 
Well actually its not illegal to wear headscarfs in public.
Its illegal to wear them in government run institutions such as the police force, educational academies, etc. In public and on the street is perfectly acceptable, though they are not encouraged to do so.
The Burqa?
 
Yes, and the headscarf. You wont find anybody wearing Burqa's anyway, at least not Turks, from what i remember Turkey is mainly Sunni.
It does get hot
 
Oh, for FFS! :roll:

Isn't it enough that they've already banned religious attire in government buildings, now they want to ban it in the streets as well?

Seriously, though. I think it's a really bad idea for a government to tell people how they're allowed to dress. There is also the unintended likely consequence of such a ban: these women will never set foot outside their homes again.

Also, LOL @ the picture's caption placing Marseille in central France. :rofl

There is a case for standing up for the vulnerable, silent majority of oppressed Muslim women. Its great us 'Westerners' suggesting they should stand up for themselves etc, but generations of oppression can, and do impact on ones ability to rebel. I say give them a helping hand and ban the draconian attire.

Paul
 
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There is a high level of anti-Muslim sentiment in France right now. France is xenophobic in general, but when it comes to Middle Easterners it's in a league of its own. This should not surprise observers, although it does set a dangerous precedent for what the government there has the ability to tell people to do.

Perhaps they should show this level of combativeness in far off lands... such as Afghanistan?

Paul
 
While there at it they can Ban those silly Nuns Garments (except in private party's):3oops:
 
While there at it they can Ban those silly Nuns Garments (except in private party's):3oops:
Nah....those are worn out of habit.
 
There is a case for standing up for the vulnerable, silent majority of oppressed Muslim women. Its great us 'Westerners' suggesting they should stand up for themselves etc, but generations of oppression can, and do impact on ones ability to rebel. I say give them a helping hand and ban the draconian attire.

Paul

True. But what about freedom of religion? Isn't that important too?
 
True. But what about freedom of religion? Isn't that important too?

Freedom of religion is very important, but i feel if the burqa and Hi jab impact on secularist society it no longer becomes non intrusive.

Paul
 
Freedom of religion is very important, but i feel if the burqa and Hi jab impact on secularist society it no longer becomes non intrusive.

Paul
Freedom of religion is important, but not when it impacts "secularist" society?

Is secularist society so fragile that it cannot withstand the presence of God?

Says a lot about the quality of secularist society, non?
 
Freedom of religion is very important, but i feel if the burqa and Hi jab impact on secularist society it no longer becomes non intrusive.

Paul

But how far will the government be allowed to go? If they can control what you wear on the streets, will they then move on to what you wear when working in your garden? Or when you open the window and other people can see you? Or demand that you wear secular attire whenever you answer the front door?

No, seriously. Where does it stop?
 
Personally, I dislike the garment in question, as it IMO is a symbol of the oppression of women. Used as a tool of controll, etc. However, if the female in question believes that it is necessary, that's up to them.

From another angle, I can see banning a garment of this type for security reasons and the like, but I would much rather a more blanket ban. For example, "no clothing items in security areas which partially or in full conceal the wearers identity". Of course, they could just ask the person to remove the item to confirm their identity, I suppose.
 
Personally, I dislike the garment in question, as it IMO is a symbol of the oppression of women. Used as a tool of controll, etc. However, if the female in question believes that it is necessary, that's up to them.

From another angle, I can see banning a garment of this type for security reasons and the like, but I would much rather a more blanket ban. For example, "no clothing items in security areas which partially or in full conceal the wearers identity". Of course, they could just ask the person to remove the item to confirm their identity, I suppose.

No offense, but justice does not play off of your personal likes/dislikes (in fact it's purpose is to ignore those completely).
 
No offense, but justice does not play off of your personal likes/dislikes (in fact it's purpose is to ignore those completely).

Well, obviously.

Thus the header of my statement, "personally".

The ideas I stated were simply what I would suggest did I have any say in the matter.

Which I don't.
 
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Burqa YES



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burqa NO
 
Who is the second woman?

I know who the first one is... she's the protagonist of my nightmares.
 
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