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    Re: France considers banning the burqa

    Quote Originally Posted by Arcana XV View Post
    True. But what about freedom of religion? Isn't that important too?
    Freedom of religion is very important, but i feel if the burqa and Hi jab impact on secularist society it no longer becomes non intrusive.

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    Re: France considers banning the burqa

    Quote Originally Posted by gunner View Post
    Freedom of religion is very important, but i feel if the burqa and Hi jab impact on secularist society it no longer becomes non intrusive.

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    Freedom of religion is important, but not when it impacts "secularist" society?

    Is secularist society so fragile that it cannot withstand the presence of God?

    Says a lot about the quality of secularist society, non?

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    Re: France considers banning the burqa

    Quote Originally Posted by Arcana XV View Post
    True. But what about freedom of religion? Isn't that important too?
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    Re: France considers banning the burqa

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    Re: France considers banning the burqa

    Quote Originally Posted by gunner View Post
    Freedom of religion is very important, but i feel if the burqa and Hi jab impact on secularist society it no longer becomes non intrusive.

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    But how far will the government be allowed to go? If they can control what you wear on the streets, will they then move on to what you wear when working in your garden? Or when you open the window and other people can see you? Or demand that you wear secular attire whenever you answer the front door?

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    Re: France considers banning the burqa

    Personally, I dislike the garment in question, as it IMO is a symbol of the oppression of women. Used as a tool of controll, etc. However, if the female in question believes that it is necessary, that's up to them.

    From another angle, I can see banning a garment of this type for security reasons and the like, but I would much rather a more blanket ban. For example, "no clothing items in security areas which partially or in full conceal the wearers identity". Of course, they could just ask the person to remove the item to confirm their identity, I suppose.
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    Re: France considers banning the burqa

    Quote Originally Posted by The Mark View Post
    Personally, I dislike the garment in question, as it IMO is a symbol of the oppression of women. Used as a tool of controll, etc. However, if the female in question believes that it is necessary, that's up to them.

    From another angle, I can see banning a garment of this type for security reasons and the like, but I would much rather a more blanket ban. For example, "no clothing items in security areas which partially or in full conceal the wearers identity". Of course, they could just ask the person to remove the item to confirm their identity, I suppose.
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    Re: France considers banning the burqa

    Quote Originally Posted by Arch Enemy View Post
    No offense, but justice does not play off of your personal likes/dislikes (in fact it's purpose is to ignore those completely).
    Well, obviously.

    Thus the header of my statement, "personally".

    The ideas I stated were simply what I would suggest did I have any say in the matter.

    Which I don't.
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    Re: France considers banning the burqa



    Burqa YES





    burqa NO
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    Re: France considers banning the burqa

    Who is the second woman?

    I know who the first one is... she's the protagonist of my nightmares.
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