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France considers banning the burqa

gunner said:
Not fear. A Lot of the female community feel inhibited with the constraints of restrictive dress.
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Ah, so you want to help females feel less inhibited by getting them out of their bras...err...burqas.

Not exactly an original approach to the ladies.
 
gunner said:
Not fear. A Lot of the female community feel inhibited with the constraints of restrictive dress.

Paul
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Then if those women who wear restrictive clothing feel constrained, let them decide for themselves to take off the excess. It's not yours, the government's, or anyone else's place to make them.
 
celticlord said:
Yes they do....rather arrogant and obnoxious of them, actually.

Only....how does someone who does as he pleases get oppressed by a woman in a burqa?
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Your trying to reverse the psychology. The Burke wearers are the oppressed silly!

Paul
 
gunner said:
Your trying to reverse the psychology. The Burke wearers are the oppressed silly!

Paul
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Says you. Congratulations on being able to literally place yourself inside their minds.
 
gunner said:
Your trying to reverse the psychology. The Burke wearers are the oppressed silly!

Paul
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But if they choose to wear a burqa, how are they oppressed?

Just because a woman won't flash her goodies at you or look at your ugly mug doesn't mean she's being oppressed. It means your pickup lines need some work.
 
hiswoman said:
Then if those women who wear restrictive clothing feel constrained, let them decide for themselves to take off the excess. It's not yours, the government's, or anyone else's place to make them.
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How many times have i got to say this.......

Not everyone lives in the land of the free

Comprende?

Paul
 
gunner said:
How many times have i got to say this.......

Not everyone lives in the land of the free

Comprende?

Paul
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Everyone has the right to choose for themselves what they will and will not do with their own lives.

Capische?
 
gunner said:
Not everyone lives in the land of the free
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Yeah, but dude, America is the land of the free, not the land of the free love. We allow women to wear burqas and other clothing. We even allow them not to look at you.

Now, from an aesthetic perspective, I'm with you....I'll gladly do what I can to talk any woman out of her burqa, her bra, and even her knickers. But if she insists on "repressing" herself by refusing my suggestions, she does have that right.
 
celticlord said:
But if they choose to wear a burqa, how are they oppressed?
By stick, whip or any other instrument that takes fancy

Just because a woman won't flash her goodies at you or look at your ugly mug doesn't mean she's being oppressed. It means your pickup lines need some work.
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By stick, whip or any other instrument that takes fancy

O how its great to be insular:2wave:

Paul
 
celticlord said:
But if they choose to wear a burqa, how are they oppressed?

Just because a woman won't flash her goodies at you or look at your ugly mug doesn't mean she's being oppressed. It means your pickup lines need some work.
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celticlord said:
Yeah, but dude, America is the land of the free, not the land of the free love. We allow women to wear burqas and other clothing. We even allow them not to look at you.

Now, from an aesthetic perspective, I'm with you....I'll gladly do what I can to talk any woman out of her burqa, her bra, and even her knickers. But if she insists on "repressing" herself by refusing my suggestions, she does have that right.
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I,m enjoying your witticisms, but please remember that's all they are:cool:

Paul
 
gunner said:
By stick, whip or any other instrument that takes fancy

O how its great to be insular:2wave:

Paul
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Couple of things:

1. The post you quoted of mine reads in its entirety:
celticlord said:
But if they choose to wear a burqa, how are they oppressed?

Just because a woman won't flash her goodies at you or look at your ugly mug doesn't mean she's being oppressed. It means your pickup lines need some work.
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"By stick, whip or any other instrument that takes fancy" is your contribution.

2. WTF??????:confused::confused::confused:

You are making no sense at all.
 
gunner said:
By stick, whip or any other instrument that takes fancy

O how its great to be insular:2wave:

Paul
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They are IN FRANCE, they CHOOSE to wear them, they are not oppressed to wear them there.
 
celticlord said:
Couple of things:

1. The post you quoted of mine reads in its entirety:

"By stick, whip or any other instrument that takes fancy" is your contribution.

2. WTF??????:confused::confused::confused:

You are making no sense at all.
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The sense is there my friend, your blindness stems from protectionism.

Please don't be confused, to diversify how many Anti khamenian Iranian protesters are wearing burkas? let me think....

Paul
 
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gunner said:
The sense is there my friend, your blindness stems from protectionism.

Please don't be confused, to diversify how many Anti khamenian Iranian protesters are wearing burkas? let me think....

Paul
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Actually, I'm not confused....you are. France is seeking to ban the burqa, not Iran.
 
Are they banning nun habits too?

No?

Then, no, they have no legitimate reason to discriminate against Muslim women. What a bunch of pompass french twats.
 
While from my perspective, I have a hard time imagaining a woman CHOOSING to wear a Burqa, it is not impossible.

I speak here NOT of a woman who, as a member of the Islamic faith, is instructed by some sect of said faith to wear the aforementioned clothing item.

Instead, I speak of a woman who chooses, firstly, to be a member of Islam, and, secondly, to wear a Burqa in accordance with the teachings of some sect of Islam.

Now, this is, I will admit, unlikely, as the very act of choosing is in many areas (in most cases those which also require the wearing of Burqas) frowned upon when it is a woman doing the choosing.

But not impossible.
 
Who can even argue that this isn't a fundamental violation of ones unalienable right to freedom of religion? France already banned the Burqa in schools, that alone was fascist to the core. And now this? We're not talking about I.D. pictures here. Simply unconscionable.
 
The Burka has nothing to do with Islam and hence it is not infringing anyone's religious rights.
 
Agent Ferris said:
Sure I guess that's why the only women who wear them are Muslim short of Mary circa 1 AD.
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There is nothing in the Koran about the Burqa, hence it is not part of Islam.

What it is part off is local traditions in the region, which comes from in part the subjugation of women by any and all means by men. Women are property and hence need to be "protected" from the competition and covering them up is a great way of doing so. So yes, the Burqa is a symbol of oppression of women pure and simple. It is no different than a chastity belt from the middle ages.. I doubt that you would agree with them now would you?
 
PeteEU said:
There is nothing in the Koran about the Burqa, hence it is not part of Islam.

What it is part off is local traditions in the region, which comes from in part the subjugation of women by any and all means by men. Women are property and hence need to be "protected" from the competition and covering them up is a great way of doing so. So yes, the Burqa is a symbol of oppression of women pure and simple. It is no different than a chastity belt from the middle ages.. I doubt that you would agree with them now would you?
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The Burqa is not oppressive unless one is forced to wear it, denial of the right to wear it is inherently oppressive.
 
Agent Ferris said:
The Burqa is not oppressive unless one is forced to wear it, denial of the right to wear it is inherently oppressive.
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Which many women are and that is the point. Either it is direct force or because of "peer" pressure, but regardless it is force.
 
PeteEU said:
There is nothing in the Koran about the Burqa, hence it is not part of Islam.

What it is part off is local traditions in the region, which comes from in part the subjugation of women by any and all means by men. Women are property and hence need to be "protected" from the competition and covering them up is a great way of doing so. So yes, the Burqa is a symbol of oppression of women pure and simple. It is no different than a chastity belt from the middle ages.. I doubt that you would agree with them now would you?
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very similar to some orthodox Jewish women wearing wigs to cover their real hair when they go out,so it will inflame men
 
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