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    Re: Senate Backs Apology for Slavery

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Let's see...Slightly Conservative, Liberal, Very Conservative...all in agreement on something. Is this a sign of the impending end of the world?
    yeh ! scary huh ! The Lion is lying down with the Lamb and the Lion is not eating the Leg of the Lamb !

    We need to put a stop to that #$%^&*()
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    Re: Senate Backs Apology for Slavery

    Quote Originally Posted by F107HyperSabr View Post
    Byrdi s a Senator if you are referring to Sen Robert Byrd WV

    What makes this "not genuine" is it bcasue it didn't come with reparations?
    Orbecasue it was non binding?

    Because the people who owned slaves are long dead. That's what I mean. It's like me apologizing to some dude who my grandfather bitch slapped while a boyscout
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    Re: Senate Backs Apology for Slavery

    worhless gesture and waste of time
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    Re: Senate Backs Apology for Slavery

    Quote Originally Posted by F107HyperSabr View Post
    Byrdi s a Senator if you are referring to Sen Robert Byrd WV

    What makes this "not genuine" is it because it didn't come with reparations?
    Or becasue it was non binding?
    Because it's a pointless, empty gesture, intended only to make the Senators who voted for it feel good about themselves.
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    Quote Originally Posted by F107HyperSabr View Post
    Does anyone think that the Senate should not have appologized ? If so why.
    An apology is not appropriate. Slavery existed long before the United States, and still exists now in Africa and parts of Asia.

    If apologies for slavery are going to be handed around, perhaps Africans should apologize to Jews for slavin em up to make the pyramids ?

    The sitting Senate never enslaved anyone, and so they do not have the right or legitimacy to issue an "apology".

    What I don't like about the apology, is the hubris. Slavery has been practiced by all bloodlines of humans, and was being practiced, widely, on the nation state level, in the early days of U.S. History. If one examines the timeline, the U.S. abolished slavery far earlier than the vast majority of comparable contemporary nation states. Slavery was bigger than any one government, and it shows a lot of false pride to think one group of men in one nation can, 130 years later, apologize for a global practice, discontinued comparatively early in the nation in question.
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    Re: Senate Backs Apology for Slavery

    My ancestors during the time of American slavery weren't even Americans. They were Germans. Can they legitimately apologize for me when not even my ancestors were a part of the deal?

    The notion is ludicrous. As others have said, the apology is meaningless.

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    Re: Senate Backs Apology for Slavery

    Quote Originally Posted by Moon View Post
    Because it's a pointless, empty gesture, intended only to make the Senators who voted for it feel good about themselves.
    Much like the empty gesture The U.S. House of Representatives did when they overwhelmingly approved a resolution Friday that says it supports "all Iranians who embrace the values of freedom, human rights, civil liberties and the rule of law."

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    Re: Senate Backs Apology for Slavery

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    Much like the empty gesture The U.S. House of Representatives did when they overwhelmingly approved a resolution Friday that says it supports "all Iranians who embrace the values of freedom, human rights, civil liberties and the rule of law."
    Well, except for the minor detail that the situation with the Iranians is happening now, and slavery ended a brazillion years ago.
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    Re: Senate Backs Apology for Slavery

    Quote Originally Posted by Moon View Post
    Well, except for the minor detail that the situation with the Iranians is happening now, and slavery ended a brazillion years ago.
    It's still empty. It doesn't DO anything. It's a waste of time.

    You might as well have a resolution stating that the sun rises from the east.
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    Re: Senate Backs Apology for Slavery

    Quote Originally Posted by Moon View Post
    Because it's a pointless, empty gesture, intended only to make the Senators who voted for it feel good about themselves.
    Well, the way they are running things I guess they have to take what they can get, personally, I think they should apologize to every American they represent and pass a resolution to legislate with bags over their heads.
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