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    Re: U.S. House votes overwhelmingly for Iranian resolution

    Quote Originally Posted by johnjoel View Post
    I am fully aware of this. However it doesn't take wasting tax payer dollars and time to say something. You just say it. What doesn't make sense is adding bureaucracy to a comment. If that makes sense, then there is no sense.

    I suppose Paul was twiddling his thumbs in wait of a real issue.

    America stands by the citizens of Iran, for justice, for peace.

    There you can have that one for free. Sign it -THE USA.

    Because under US Code Congress is required to do certain things by the book and making and passing a resolution is one of these items. My god don't any of you know US Code's and how Congress works on a Day to Day base's no wonder most people have no clue about the inner workings of DC.

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    Re: U.S. House votes overwhelmingly for Iranian resolution

    We cannot still be the model for freedom and democracy if we support, financially or verbally, ruthless dictators. This was a good reassurance that we wouldn't do that, and we should do the same for Egypt and Saudi Arabia.

    Ron Paul thinks that everything involving foreign countries is interventionism. He voted against a resolution sympathyzing with the victims of the cyclone in Burma.

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    Re: U.S. House votes overwhelmingly for Iranian resolution

    Quote Originally Posted by stekim View Post
    You know, there is plenty of time for them to get to pressing and non-pressing matters. And as far as them wasting time, the best I can tell that's ALL they do. But in this case it didn't cost me anything. Now I'm beginning to like resolutions a lot.
    It didn't cost you anything? You work tax free? I could easily change my point of view if I didn't have to invest in these people.

    Now if you are like most of the rest of the American people then you already paid into the system, which paid their salary already.

    Your quote is sending mixed signals. They waste time all the time but that is okay since it doesn't cost you anything.

    Is FICA not on your paycheck any longer all the sudden? I don't understand.

    To state my position; It always matters what Congress does and in this case, they made a bold and just statement I fully agree with. The thing with Congress and many other bureaucracies is they have this knack for having great ideas but poorly implementing them. I happen to a person who attempts to speak out against waste and to me the way this was done was wasteful and could have better impact in another area or by another group that included Congress.

    These people represent us and speak for us. Every move they make is very important to monitor.

    If some would like to brush this off as no big deal, we pay for this crap all the time, its the norm, fine. That is cool. I have no personal problem with that and there is no love lost. I disagree though.
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    Re: U.S. House votes overwhelmingly for Iranian resolution

    Quote Originally Posted by Scorpion89 View Post
    Because under US Code Congress is required to do certain things by the book and making and passing a resolution is one of these items. My god don't any of you know US Code's and how Congress works on a Day to Day base's no wonder most people have no clue about the inner workings of DC.
    My God doesn't any know that it doesn't take a resolution to say, "we are with ya!"

    ??

    You want to get all by the book, no problem. You are right. However we don't need a book to say, "were with ya."

    Its ridiculous. Laughable. Not Congress' damn business.
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    Re: U.S. House votes overwhelmingly for Iranian resolution

    Quote Originally Posted by ARealConservative View Post
    Sorry, but I don't really understand what you're saying to reply to it adequately.

    Personally, I find our election system to be a joke so I find it ridiculous that we are spending time in the house penning legislation to smear another nation.

    Those entrenched in our two party system uses every power at their disposal to circumvent free and fair elections.
    Quote Originally Posted by Originally Posted by johnjoel
    Because it takes tax payer dollars for Congress to verbally support events.




    Evidently...
    I was being sarcastic.

    I find myself agreeing with you entirely. But I was being sarcastic.
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    Re: U.S. House votes overwhelmingly for Iranian resolution

    The efficacy of governmental resolutions are at their best when they outline a future course of action that the government intends to pursue. Often, by exploring public reaction through a resolution, senators and other lawmakers may guage the feasibility and impact such a resolution might have on their careers.

    Of course, it could be said that it is more admirable to pass laws and act according to one's ideals instead of timidly seeking the reaction of an american public. This would make sense, however, only if government leaders possessed authority to move american policy without repercussion or personal responsibility.

    I find, however, that politicians seeking the approval of their constituency are more in-line with a republic's structure, even if this doesn't always lead to the best policy decisions.

    As for the efficacy of the Iranian Resolution, it's written in general language that most people would find worthy. But I doubt most non-american's would see this as a bold defense of freedom or sincerity.

    Rather than seeing it as American politicians covering their ass.

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    Re: U.S. House votes overwhelmingly for Iranian resolution

    Quote Originally Posted by DasTränegras View Post
    The efficacy of governmental resolutions are at their best when they outline a future course of action that the government intends to pursue. Often, by exploring public reaction through a resolution, senators and other lawmakers may guage the feasibility and impact such a resolution might have on their careers.

    Of course, it could be said that it is more admirable to pass laws and act according to one's ideals instead of timidly seeking the reaction of an american public. This would make sense, however, only if government leaders possessed authority to move american policy without repercussion or personal responsibility.

    I find, however, that politicians seeking the approval of their constituency are more in-line with a republic's structure, even if this doesn't always lead to the best policy decisions.

    As for the efficacy of the Iranian Resolution, it's written in general language that most people would find worthy. But I doubt most non-american's would see this as a bold defense of freedom or sincerity.

    Rather than seeing it as American politicians covering their ass.
    Outstanding post.
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    Re: U.S. House votes overwhelmingly for Iranian resolution

    Obama holds to measured course on unrest in Iran

    WASHINGTON — The Obama administration on Friday stuck to a measured response to the uprising in Iran over a disputed presidential election, even as both houses of Congress voted overwhelmingly to condemn an official crackdown on mostly peaceful demonstrations in the streets of Tehran.

    Administration officials said they remained convinced that the wiser U.S. course was caution over confrontation. President Barack Obama is coming under growing domestic political pressure to speak out more forcefully in support of protesters warned by Iran's supreme leader Friday to end their huge street rallies.

    In the strongest message yet from the U.S. government, the House voted 405-1 to condemn Tehran's crackdown on protest rallies and the government's interference with Internet and cell phone communications. The Senate followed suit later in the day.
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    "When Ronald Reagan went before the Brandenburg Gate, he did not say Mr. (Mikhail) Gorbachev, that wall is none of our business," said Pence, R-Ind., of former President Ronald Reagan's famous exhortation to the Soviet leader to "tear down that wall" in a divided Berlin.
    Obama holds to measured course on unrest in Iran | Comcast.net



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    Re: U.S. House votes overwhelmingly for Iranian resolution

    Obama 'Very Concerned' About Iran Leader's Threat to Crack Down on Protesters.

    President Obama is "very concerned" about the events unfolding in Iran, as the Islamic Republic's supreme leader warned Friday about a coming crackdown on peaceful protesters.

    "I'm very concerned based on some of the tenor -- and tone of the statements that have been made -- that the government of Iran recognize that the world is watching," the president told CBS News. "And how they approach and deal with people who are, through peaceful means, trying to be heard will, I think, send a pretty clear signal to the international community about what Iran is and -- and is not."

    Earlier, the White House welcomed a non-binding resolution in Congress supporting street protests in Iran as top officials said the president will continue his low-key approach to the roiling internal debate over Iran's disputed presidential election.

    "It's not about us, it's about them," a senior administration official. "They are the ones driving this."

    Both houses of Congress have voted to condemn Iran's crackdown on anti-government demonstrators.

    The resolution -- approved by the House and then the Senate -- condemns "the ongoing violence" by the government and the Iranian government's suppression of the Internet and cell phones. It also expressed support for Iranian citizens who embrace freedom.
    *insert profound statement here*

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    Re: U.S. House votes overwhelmingly for Iranian resolution

    Quote Originally Posted by johnjoel View Post
    It didn't cost you anything? You work tax free? I could easily change my point of view if I didn't have to invest in these people.

    Now if you are like most of the rest of the American people then you already paid into the system, which paid their salary already.

    Your quote is sending mixed signals. They waste time all the time but that is okay since it doesn't cost you anything.

    Is FICA not on your paycheck any longer all the sudden? I don't understand.

    To state my position; It always matters what Congress does and in this case, they made a bold and just statement I fully agree with. The thing with Congress and many other bureaucracies is they have this knack for having great ideas but poorly implementing them. I happen to a person who attempts to speak out against waste and to me the way this was done was wasteful and could have better impact in another area or by another group that included Congress.

    These people represent us and speak for us. Every move they make is very important to monitor.

    If some would like to brush this off as no big deal, we pay for this crap all the time, its the norm, fine. That is cool. I have no personal problem with that and there is no love lost. I disagree though.
    Seriously. You are not making a lick of sense. It cost me the same as any act of Congress costs me. Their salary. Which they get no matter what. Not sure why you don't grasp that.
    Wow. Am I awesome or what?

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