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    Woman fined $1.9 million for illegally downloading 24 songs

    Woman fined $1.9 million for illegal downloads – The CNN Wire - CNN.com Blogs

    This is just ridiculous. I can't even imagine what the judge was thinking.
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    Re: Woman fined $1.9 million for illegally downloading 24 songs

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    Woman fined $1.9 million for illegal downloads The CNN Wire - CNN.com Blogs

    This is just ridiculous. I can't even imagine what the judge was thinking.
    Did the judge award the fine, or did the jury?

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    Re: Woman fined $1.9 million for illegally downloading 24 songs

    The jury awarded it. Also, if the odds of being prosecuted for a crime are low, the punishment has to be high to have a worthwhile deterrent effect. Sucks for the person who gets caught, but it makes sense.
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    Re: Woman fined $1.9 million for illegally downloading 24 songs

    Quote Originally Posted by RightinNYC View Post
    The jury awarded it. Also, if the odds of being prosecuted for a crime are low, the punishment has to be high to have a worthwhile deterrent effect. Sucks for the person who gets caught, but it makes sense.
    No it doesn't considering the BS that is surrounding this and other File Share case. It's going ot end up at the US Supreme Court mark my words on that. They have said they are going to file an a motion for appeal on Friday.

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    Re: Woman fined $1.9 million for illegally downloading 24 songs

    Quote Originally Posted by RightinNYC View Post
    The jury awarded it. Also, if the odds of being prosecuted for a crime are low, the punishment has to be high to have a worthwhile deterrent effect. Sucks for the person who gets caught, but it makes sense.
    It does not make sense. If society deems that this crime is severe enough that it needs a stronger deterrent effect, then it should prosecute the crime more often...not fine some random person $80,000 per illegal download while allowing everyone else to get off scot-free. That is just stupid and excessive. Fortunately the punishment will almost certainly be thrown out on appeal, as it should.
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    Re: Woman fined $1.9 million for illegally downloading 24 songs

    How do they select which person is to get caught? This is something that baffles me. I could get onto a Peer to Peer Network right now and give an IP Address to someone who has all sorts of illegal music, games, and movies.
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    Re: Woman fined $1.9 million for illegally downloading 24 songs

    Quote Originally Posted by Scorpion89 View Post
    No it doesn't considering the BS that is surrounding this and other File Share case. It's going ot end up at the US Supreme Court mark my words on that. They have said they are going to file an a motion for appeal on Friday.
    1) English please.

    2) This is a district court case. It would go to the Circuit Court, not the Supreme Court.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    It does not make sense. If society deems that this crime is severe enough that it needs a stronger deterrent effect, then it should prosecute the crime more often...not fine some random person $80,000 per illegal download while allowing everyone else to get off scot-free. That is just stupid and excessive. Fortunately the punishment will almost certainly be thrown out on appeal, as it should.
    1) We do this all the time. Littering carries a $500 fine - is that because someone littering actually costs $500, or because it's so hard to catch someone littering that you have to make the fine big to deter it?

    2) "Prosecute" was a bad choice of words on my part - this is a civil trial. In civil trials, the rationale is even stronger. If they only awarded nominal damages, it would not be cost efficient for the injured party to sue and it would effectively result in a repeal of a law via nuisance.

    3) What makes you say it will get thrown out on appeal?
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    Re: Woman fined $1.9 million for illegally downloading 24 songs

    Quote Originally Posted by Arch Enemy View Post
    How do they select which person is to get caught? This is something that baffles me. I could get onto a Peer to Peer Network right now and give an IP Address to someone who has all sorts of illegal music, games, and movies.
    Generally they warn people several times via their ISPs to cut the sharing out. Then I guess they probably pick based on forum/other factors unknown to us.
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    Re: Woman fined $1.9 million for illegally downloading 24 songs

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    Woman fined $1.9 million for illegal downloads The CNN Wire - CNN.com Blogs

    This is just ridiculous. I can't even imagine what the judge was thinking.
    Hey music industry, go **** your selves! You just made another enemy today.

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    Re: Woman fined $1.9 million for illegally downloading 24 songs

    Holy **** that made my heart stop until i read the link:

    A federal jury Thursday found a 32-year-old Minnesota woman guilty of illegally downloading music from the Internet and fined her $80,000 each a total of $1.9 million for 24 songs.
    Phew, me and my music is safe ... for now o.O


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