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    Re: A trial .... without a Jury? First time in UK history.

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    If the defendant was not allowed a trial by jury, it's just another reason I am proud to be an American.
    If only we could steal your constitution and implement it here ....


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    Re: A trial .... without a Jury? First time in UK history.

    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post
    It's horrible isn't it?
    They can't be upfront about it and just say they want more power taken from people.

    Judges are unelected, unaccountable and are open to the whims of politicans. No seperation of power. We are so screwed.
    It's not really a separation of power issue, because no matter what a judge does, it's only subject to the authority of the judicial branch.

    It's more a nostalgic sense of fairness issue.
    People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf.

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    Re: A trial .... without a Jury? First time in UK history.

    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post
    BBC NEWS | UK | First trial without jury approved





    Dangerous, knowing our Govt. this will become common.
    I don't like this at all, what the heck is going on with our system.
    Does anyone even know who our law lords are and we are supposed to trust them
    In the U.S. trials by jury are usually reserved for Felony (more serious) charges, in what we call "Superior" courts.

    Misdemeanor charges are handled in District courts by a single presiding judge. Misdemeanor verdicts can be appealed to a superior court judge for judicial review or for an opportunity to have a jury hear the case, but this usually doesn't happen that often.
    "I condemn the ideology of White Supremacy and Nazism. They are thugs, criminals, and repugnant, and are against what I believe to be "The American Way" "
    Thus my obligatory condemnation of White supremacy will now be in every post, lest I be accused of supporting it because I didn't mention it specifically every time I post.

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    Re: A trial .... without a Jury? First time in UK history.

    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post
    If only we could steal your constitution and implement it here ....
    That'd be nice. No one else is using it right now, not even us.

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    Re: A trial .... without a Jury? First time in UK history.

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    If the defendant was not allowed a trial by jury, it's just another reason I am proud to be an American.
    I bet OJ was as well?

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    Re: A trial .... without a Jury? First time in UK history.

    I remember Diplock Courts in 1972.

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    Re: A trial .... without a Jury? First time in UK history.

    Quote Originally Posted by B L Zeebub View Post
    I bet OJ was as well?
    Hell yeeeeah..

    He was glad that blacks were threatening to riot if he was convicted of murder.
    "I condemn the ideology of White Supremacy and Nazism. They are thugs, criminals, and repugnant, and are against what I believe to be "The American Way" "
    Thus my obligatory condemnation of White supremacy will now be in every post, lest I be accused of supporting it because I didn't mention it specifically every time I post.

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    Re: A trial .... without a Jury? First time in UK history.

    Quote Originally Posted by Caine View Post
    In the U.S. trials by jury are usually reserved for Felony (more serious) charges, in what we call "Superior" courts.

    Misdemeanor charges are handled in District courts by a single presiding judge. Misdemeanor verdicts can be appealed to a superior court judge for judicial review or for an opportunity to have a jury hear the case, but this usually doesn't happen that often.
    The same as in the UK, we have Crown Courts and Magistrate Courts.

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    Re: A trial .... without a Jury? First time in UK history.

    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post
    Judges may as well make laws at the way they go about things over here, i have no idea who our law lords are and they head our highest court. The PM appoints them with little to no check or confirmation process so the positions could be highly politicised.

    No, this is dangerous imo.
    Then you would agree how wonderful its is to be a signatory to the European Court of Human Rights

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    Re: A trial .... without a Jury? First time in UK history.

    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post
    If only we could steal your constitution and implement it here ....
    To bare arms? I dont think the monarchy would agree with that, we may end our "subject of the crown" status and become complete citizens.

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