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    Re: Obama refuses to 'meddle' in Iran

    Quote Originally Posted by Triad View Post
    NOo we should film the slaughter and say how we just couldn't do anything about it.


    Isn't that better. then being Americans?....oh yes becasue the USA is a meddling hate nation!.

    Maybe you'll get a snapshot of a man being run over by a tank out of this..you know something to put on the fridge for the kids.

    Yes We Can
    Well why don't you get off your ass and go mettle then.

    I love it how our great nation's people love to volunteer our military forces to get involved in **** that doesn't have jack to do with the security of our nation.
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    Re: Obama refuses to 'meddle' in Iran

    I did my time over a decade ago.
    Ironically the US was expressing suport for the rioters in Lithuania,, Latvia, Estonia at the time...30 minutes we all die but we stood behind them publicly and vocally behind them.


    I love how you guys always go for personal attempts to defame when your positions are so what?... as easy as nothing?



    BTW I hope you don't express any opinion you haven't gotten off your ass on to do something directly about..or you might be like everyone else on the forum..stating opinion.....



    I assume both you and redress agree that the USA should be fighiting the Taliban and al Qaeda in Afghanistan ..correct?
    Well then..ruck up soldier!
    What oh....yeah so drop that crap.

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    The USA should be publicly supporting the protestors in Iran and searching for ways to expand this into an overthrow of the theocracy.

    Obama is stating the US isn't interested in the protestors..it wants talks with the despots.


    Obama is going to respond to a massacre with 'you bad Iran' ..and 6 months-year later be all smiles in a photo op with the murderers.
    Last edited by Triad; 06-17-09 at 09:16 PM.

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    Re: Obama refuses to 'meddle' in Iran

    Quote Originally Posted by Triad View Post
    I love how you guys always go for personal attempts to defame when your positions are so what?... as easy as nothing?
    We should let them do this on their own. I can only imagine what it would be like with US Support, and expectations of paying us back in one way or another. Personally I agree with President Bushs's original notion (which he later reneged on due to 9/11) that we shouldn't be involved in "nation building".





    BTW I hope you don't express any opinion you haven't gotten off your ass on to do something directly about..or you might be like everyone else on the forum..stating opinion.....



    I assume both you and redress agree that the USA should be fighiting the Taliban and al Qaeda in Afghanistan ..correct?
    Well then..ruck up soldier!
    What oh....yeah so drop that crap.
    Been there done that got the battle scars to prove it. Any other assumptions you want to make about me?




    Obama is going to respond to a massacre with 'you bad Iran' ..and 6 months-year later be all smiles in a photo op with the murderers.
    Diplomacy is a bitch isn't it?
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    Re: Obama refuses to 'meddle' in Iran

    Quote Originally Posted by Caine View Post
    Been there done that got the battle scars to prove it. Any other assumptions you want to make about me?


    You missed the overall point.
    The two statements are independent.
    The first am saying-
    Nobody here is president, senator, congressman, general, pakistani warlord, chinese shopper, south korean protestor, marriage activist, nuclear activist, Osama...etc...etc..
    Yet most have opinions they state on all those things.


    My second point was to drive that example home with an example. By citing something I'm sure both of you support yet neither of you are doing now.

    Cobbling the two together directly will miss the point.

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    We should let them do this on their own. I can only imagine what it would be like with US Support, and expectations of paying us back in one way or another. Personally I agree with President Bushs's original notion (which he later reneged on due to 9/11) that we shouldn't be involved in "nation building".
    Then it will fail and the USA will have done nothing.


    Diplomacy is a bitch isn't it?
    Thats just it.. All he cares about is diplomacy.
    ..he'll sell out anyone and any US principle for a photo op.
    Last edited by Triad; 06-17-09 at 10:05 PM.

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    Re: Obama refuses to 'meddle' in Iran

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    So what is your plan, other than to complain?
    We could lend direct or indirect financial, logistical, and armament support to the opposition groups. There are numerous armed resistance organizations against the current theocrats in Iran, but they will need foreign backing if they are to be successful. I doubt a velvet revolution will work against the Mullahs.

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    Re: Obama refuses to 'meddle' in Iran

    Kissinger: Obama has done the right thing by not meddling.

    BBC NEWS | Middle East | Kissinger: 'Turning point' for Iran

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    Re: Obama refuses to 'meddle' in Iran

    I think that President Obama started to wish that he never said thsi paraphrased ditty a few nano seconds after he said it = "not be much difference between the policies of President Ahmadinejad and rival Mir Hossein Mousavi"

    He is most likely right on target with that sentance but that was diplomatically a FUBAR!!
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    Re: Obama refuses to 'meddle' in Iran

    Quote Originally Posted by F107HyperSabr View Post
    I think that President Obama started to wish that he never said thsi paraphrased ditty a few nano seconds after he said it = "not be much difference between the policies of President Ahmadinejad and rival Mir Hossein Mousavi"

    He is most likely right on target with that sentance but that was diplomatically a FUBAR!!
    But it's spot on, and from what I can garner the protests have moved out of the realm of simple support for Mousavi but, also, a condemnation of the theocrats who actually run the show as well.

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    Re: Obama refuses to 'meddle' in Iran

    ahmadinejad is only a representative of himself. not his people. obama can talk with him all he wants. I bet he would give his personal phone number to obama too; but please, for god's sake, don't consider that direct talks with Iran!

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    Re: Obama refuses to 'meddle' in Iran

    Obama translation: "I gave a great speech in Cairo to meddle with the election, and dammit, it didn't do anything. Since I don't know how to do anything but give teleprompter speeches, I guess I won't be meddling no mo'."

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