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    Re: Obama refuses to 'meddle' in Iran

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    Oh I don't know... Perhaps something along these lines:

    We are at a crossroads, do we stand with freedom, or do we say "not out biz"?
    Human rights violations anywhere are the business of all of humanity. So, no, I don't think we say "NMB." But, I do not think we have the same relationship with Iran that we did with Poland. I'm not saying we shouldn't come out strongly against human rights violations. I think, however, that it is more valuable for OTHER PEOPLE to take the lead on this one.

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    Re: Obama refuses to 'meddle' in Iran

    8 Pols and a Human rights attorney arrested Actions

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    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    How the hell did you just tie in a retroactive reparative measure with a proactive preventative measure. Not even close to being the same thing.

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    Re: Obama refuses to 'meddle' in Iran

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    Human rights violations anywhere are the business of all of humanity. So, no, I don't think we say "NMB." But, I do not think we have the same relationship with Iran that we did with Poland. I'm not saying we shouldn't come out strongly against human rights violations. I think, however, that it is more valuable for OTHER PEOPLE to take the lead on this one.



    Yeahm uhm Poland had russian nukes pointing at us. Just saying....




    I am not suggesting Obama "take the lead" but to voice passing "concern" to me is weak. Very weak, and shows the world, that Obama is someone not to fear.



    P.S. YOUR AVATAR IS A STRONGER MESSAGE THAN OBAMA'S "concern". nuff said.





    All this while Iran is squelching dissent and the contest for freedom, we can only muster "concern"?
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    Re: Obama refuses to 'meddle' in Iran

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    Human rights violations anywhere are the business of all of humanity. So, no, I don't think we say "NMB." But, I do not think we have the same relationship with Iran that we did with Poland. I'm not saying we shouldn't come out strongly against human rights violations. I think, however, that it is more valuable for OTHER PEOPLE to take the lead on this one.
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    Re: Obama refuses to 'meddle' in Iran

    Just my perspective, but it seems to me like the Iranian establishment would love nothing more than for Obama to take a strong stance on this. Makes it easier to blame the protests on CIA money and US-Jew influence.
    People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf.

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    Re: Obama refuses to 'meddle' in Iran

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    The US is a meddler and especially when it comes to Iran.

    Yo do know that the US funded and aided the Shah to gain power in the first place right? You do know that the US ran several Iranian ministries under the Shah right? You do know that the US trained the Shahs secret police (with the help of the Israelis ironically enough), which even today is seen as one of, if not the most, brutal organisations ever to exist? You do know that the US propped up the Shah and his regime for years?

    Do you really think that Iranians will forget these acts over night just because the American people have ignored it for decades?

    Obama is doing exactly the right thing.. stay the hell away from the situation as any US involvement will only help the sitting government which is something most people dont want.
    Enough of your anti-American rhetoric.

    Iran's government is bull**** and it needs to be terminated.

    I realize there are some european countries that lack the balls to do anything about it. The USA has the balls and we should be using them.

    Your shameless anti-American tirade is uneeded here.

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    Re: Obama refuses to 'meddle' in Iran

    Quote Originally Posted by Triad View Post
    BBC NEWS | Middle East | Obama refuses to 'meddle' in Iran


    /*/-unnecessary..he has got to stop saying the USA is a meddler...
    *****-Totally unnecessary. Even though I agree with him that there is not much difference between the two he is telling everyone the USA thinks there's no real difference..iow can you all just get along please..thanks BO


    US diplomats are telling the Iranian government about the talks Obama wants to have...and officially downplaying the protestors.
    But lets fool ourselves..


    So far I haven't seen any evidence that anyone cheated. A bunch of people who are pissed off, protesting and rioting because their guy lost does not equal evidence of anything. Good for Obama for not sticking his nose into Iranian elections. Would we Americans appreciated some anti-American Eurotrash trying to meddle in our elections because they despise Bush when the crack pot conspiracy theorist over here were claiming Bush Cheated When he beat Gore and when he Beat Kerry? I do not give a **** about Iran. IF they try to do something to us or our allies them we should or let one our allies turn Iran into a **** stain on the side walk or a glass parking lot.
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    Re: Obama refuses to 'meddle' in Iran

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    So far I haven't seen any evidence that anyone cheated. A bunch of people who are pissed off, protesting and rioting because their guy lost does not equal evidence of anything. Good for Obama for not sticking his nose into Iranian elections. Would we Americans appreciated some anti-American Eurotrash trying to meddle in our elections because they despise Bush when the crack pot conspiracy theorist over here were claiming Bush Cheated When he beat Gore and when he Beat Kerry? I do not give a **** about Iran. IF they try to do something to us or our allies them we should or let one our allies turn Iran into a **** stain on the side walk or a glass parking lot.

    Exqueeze me?

    Aminajackoff won the election by 40 million votes. THERE ARE NOT 40 MILLION PEOPLE IN ALL OF IRAN!!!

    Hello?

    No evidence?

    HELLO?

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    Re: Obama refuses to 'meddle' in Iran

    I worry about the effect verbal intervention of the president of the great Satan will have on my green brothers.

    Would it not increase Almajackboots supporters belief they are right

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    Re: Obama refuses to 'meddle' in Iran

    Quote Originally Posted by Vader View Post
    Exqueeze me?

    Aminajackoff won the election by 40 million votes. THERE ARE NOT 40 MILLION PEOPLE IN ALL OF IRAN!!!
    Hello?

    No evidence?

    HELLO?
    You're kidding right?

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