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    re: Obama Extends Fed Benefits to Unmarried Partners, Including Same Sex Partners

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    Gosh. And here I thought that most people handled that pretty well on their own.

    I'll have to call my ex-husband and let him know that the REAL reason our marriage failed was "teh gayz."
    I see the Liberals of the forum still want to claim that this is all about marriage failures and NOT about the real purpose for two people to enter into a committed relationship for the purpose of creating children.

    It's so easy to be a Liberal; you just have to care and FEEL others pain, demagogue your opponents with hyperbole and BS and never have to deal with the REAL moral dilemmas these decisions have or ever actually solve anything.

    I'll try again; when you break down the basic fabric of a secure TWO parent family structure, eventually the entire society will break down; the facts are there, you just need to "open" those tightly closed eyes.

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    re: Obama Extends Fed Benefits to Unmarried Partners, Including Same Sex Partners

    Quote Originally Posted by Dav View Post
    How will the government be able to judge what a "domestic partnership" is? How will it prevent people from taking advantage of the system?
    They will do it the same way private companies do. It's not rocket science. And for the record, my employer never checked to see if I was actually married. So for all they know I am taking advantage of them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dav View Post
    How will the government be able to judge what a "domestic partnership" is? How will it prevent people from taking advantage of the system?
    It's not about actually solving problems, it is about pandering to voters with little or no thought put to the issue silly.

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    re: Obama Extends Fed Benefits to Unmarried Partners, Including Same Sex Partners

    Quote Originally Posted by Badgered Mushroom View Post
    I never mentioned who they would vote for. We do have more than two parties, you know? He could even do so poorly that in four years he doesn't seek re-election, but I suppose in that case what a small part of the Democratic base does doesn't really matter.
    We have more than two parties? How much do you want to bet that 90%+ of the gay vote goes to Obama in 2012 no matter what he does? More than two parties indeed. Please.
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    re: Obama Extends Fed Benefits to Unmarried Partners, Including Same Sex Partners

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    Even assuming gays could "marry" today, no different in any respect than heteros can, an unmarried couple should not be receiving any benefits simply for being a 'couple' because that promotes unstable unions.
    No one should be receiving these benefits.

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    re: Obama Extends Fed Benefits to Unmarried Partners, Including Same Sex Partners

    Quote Originally Posted by Truth Detector View Post
    I see the Liberals of the forum still want to claim that this is all about marriage failures and NOT about the real purpose for two people to enter into a committed relationship for the purpose of creating children.

    It's so easy to be a Liberal; you just have to care and FEEL others pain, demagogue your opponents with hyperbole and BS and never have to deal with the REAL moral dilemmas these decisions have or ever actually solve anything.

    I'll try again; when you break down the basic fabric of a secure TWO parent family structure, eventually the entire society will break down; the facts are there, you just need to "open" those tightly closed eyes.

    P.S. Before some of you rabid foaming at the mouth Liberals start jumping on me as some “right” wing “Christian” nut, nothing could be further from the truth. I haven’t attended a church since I was a teen. But I do have a brain and a modicum of common sense and a historical perspective. (not directed at the person I am responding to YET)
    Most excellent! I am now promoting the destruction of society!

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    re: Obama Extends Fed Benefits to Unmarried Partners, Including Same Sex Partners

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    You say that like the 50% divorce rate is composed of first-marriages under the same situations.

    In fact, the 50% divorce rate is caused by things which 'the right' speaks against in other venues, such as marrying someone with small children, marrying without financial security, and pre-marital cohabitation lowering the commitment of the couple.

    Even assuming gays could "marry" today, no different in any respect than heteros can, an unmarried couple should not be receiving any benefits simply for being a 'couple' because that promotes unstable unions.
    Exactly. What's the point in getting married if just being in a "domestic partnership" is the same thing, except you can leave at any time? Like when your girlfriend turns out to be pregnant?

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    re: Obama Extends Fed Benefits to Unmarried Partners, Including Same Sex Partners

    Quote Originally Posted by stekim View Post
    We have more than two parties? How much do you want to bet that 90%+ of the gay vote goes to Obama in 2012 no matter what he does? More than two parties indeed. Please.
    Obama got only 70% of the gay vote in 2008, why should that change?

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    re: Obama Extends Fed Benefits to Unmarried Partners, Including Same Sex Partners

    Quote Originally Posted by CrusaderRabbit08 View Post
    No one should be receiving these benefits.
    Why? In oder to compete for talent the government needs to offer competitive pay and benefits. We always (rightly) complain about how bad government workers are. Eliminating benefits from government jobs will only make that worse.
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    re: Obama Extends Fed Benefits to Unmarried Partners, Including Same Sex Partners

    Quote Originally Posted by Dav View Post
    How will the government be able to judge what a "domestic partnership" is? How will it prevent people from taking advantage of the system?
    I will continue to ask -- what are the parameters of these benefits? What does a couple have to do qualify for these benefits?

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