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    re: Obama Extends Fed Benefits to Unmarried Partners, Including Same Sex Partners

    Now this won't be rife with fraud.
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    re: Obama Extends Fed Benefits to Unmarried Partners, Including Same Sex Partners

    Quote Originally Posted by CrusaderRabbit08 View Post
    Gays shouldn't be punished just because they're not allowed to get married.

    This would be in keeping with those who say that gays should not be allowed to use the term "marriage". Instead, they should have civil unions with all the rights, benefits, and privileges that married couples enjoy. Are you someone who won't even allow them that?
    Stop dancing around issue. This isn't about civil unions or gay people. He is extending benefits to anyone in any relationship. It doesn't matter if you're gay or not. You can be a heterosexual couple that is not married and your significant other can still get Federal benefits paid for by us. And Reverend_Hellh0und is correct. The potential for fraud is huge. What if I my girlfriend doesn't live with me? What's to stop me from claiming she does so she can get tax payer paid benefits? Do you think the bureaucrats will take the time to try and prove otherwise?

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    re: Obama Extends Fed Benefits to Unmarried Partners, Including Same Sex Partners

    Quote Originally Posted by Don't Tase Me Bro View Post
    Stop dancing around issue. This isn't about civil unions or gay people. He is extending benefits to anyone in any relationship. It doesn't matter if you're gay or not. You can be a heterosexual couple that is not married and your significant other can still get Federal benefits paid for by us. And Reverend_Hellh0und is correct. The potential for fraud is huge. What if I my girlfriend doesn't live with me? What's to stop me from claiming she does so she can get tax payer paid benefits? Do you think the bureaucrats will take the time to try and prove otherwise?
    Easy solution, legalize gay marriage, then all you have to worry about are the married folks getting benefits. Problem solved, if you really want to solve it.

    As it stands now, this is the only way for parterns in a gay relationship that can't marry to get benefits for their loved ones.
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    re: Obama Extends Fed Benefits to Unmarried Partners, Including Same Sex Partners

    Quote Originally Posted by Don't Tase Me Bro View Post
    Stop dancing around issue. This isn't about civil unions or gay people. He is extending benefits to anyone in any relationship. It doesn't matter if you're gay or not. You can be a heterosexual couple that is not married and your significant other can still get Federal benefits paid for by us. And Reverend_Hellh0und is correct. The potential for fraud is huge. What if I my girlfriend doesn't live with me? What's to stop me from claiming she does so she can get tax payer paid benefits? Do you think the bureaucrats will take the time to try and prove otherwise?
    I don't care who he extends it to. A partner is a partner is a partner. If the feds are going to give benefits to partners who are married, then it should give them to partners who aren't.

    But that isn't the real issue. Government should not be giving benefits to married couples in the first place. But as long as they are, then I support expansion of the partner pool as a matter of equity.

    So, give benefits to all partners or give them to no partners.

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    re: Obama Extends Fed Benefits to Unmarried Partners, Including Same Sex Partners

    So wait?

    If I get a new federal job at a different field office that pays for relocation fee's, I can get that money not just for me but for my girlfriend that I live with if she wishes to come, despite being married? Likewise, I just need to wait for another open season and can put her on my health insurance despite not being married?

    is this what this is saying?

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    re: Obama Extends Fed Benefits to Unmarried Partners, Including Same Sex Partners

    Quote Originally Posted by Don't Tase Me Bro View Post
    The potential for fraud is huge. What if I my girlfriend doesn't live with me? What's to stop me from claiming she does so she can get tax payer paid benefits? Do you think the bureaucrats will take the time to try and prove otherwise?
    Why not? I'm sure they can devise a plan that would require proof.

    Not too long ago, my employer sent out letters to a random sampling of employees with dependents requiring them to prove that the dependents they were claiming for benefits were actually their dependents or they'd cut off their medical insurance. They had to submit, pay stubs, a marriage license, birth certificates, tax returns, etc. I'm curious as to how many employees they caught defrauding the company.

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    re: Obama Extends Fed Benefits to Unmarried Partners, Including Same Sex Partners

    Quote Originally Posted by NDNdancer View Post
    After the DOJ defended DOMA last week and his refusal to reverse don't ask don't tell, he totally infuriated the gay rights activists, so, he throws them a bone. I guess it's progress.

    Obama Intends to Extend Federal Benefits to Unmarried Partners | 44 | washingtonpost.com
    Into the "who gives a ****" pile.

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    re: Obama Extends Fed Benefits to Unmarried Partners, Including Same Sex Partners

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    So wait?

    If I get a new federal job at a different field office that pays for relocation fee's, I can get that money not just for me but for my girlfriend that I live with if she wishes to come, despite being married? Likewise, I just need to wait for another open season and can put her on my health insurance despite not being married?

    is this what this is saying?




    Think about it, why would he do this.


    To drive up the costs of healthcare for the private sector to make the desire for public healthcare grow.
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    re: Obama Extends Fed Benefits to Unmarried Partners, Including Same Sex Partners

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    Think about it, why would he do this.


    To drive up the costs of healthcare for the private sector to make the desire for public healthcare grow.
    The correct action would be to strip federal benefits from all married couples instead of expanding them to all couples regardless of marital status.

    Tax dollars should not be wasted on benefits for married couples.

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    re: Obama Extends Fed Benefits to Unmarried Partners, Including Same Sex Partners

    Quote Originally Posted by CrusaderRabbit08 View Post
    The correct action would be to strip federal benefits from all married couples instead of expanding them to all couples regardless of marital status.

    Tax dollars should not be wasted on benefits for married couples.



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