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Thread: Obama Extends Fed Benefits to Unmarried Partners, Including Same Sex Partners

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    Re: Obama Extends Fed Benefits to Unmarried Partners, Including Same Sex Partners

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    How about the approximately 2 million gay people who want to adapt?
    I would support clarifying the purpose of marriage through the legal code by giving couples a few years to bring children into their homes, or render the marriage void just the same as if it weren't solemnized within 20 days of the application.

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    Re: Obama Extends Fed Benefits to Unmarried Partners, Including Same Sex Partners

    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    What infringement on right to privacy? The marriage certificate comes with a list of benefits, not a wire tap.
    Brothah, if it's your personal knowledge against mine, I'm pulling rank. I've been married for 9 years, you? The various buffs from marriage are designed to promote a stable union for the expressed point and purpose of children being raised in the stable union.

    If you don't have children, the state couldn't give a rats ass rather your union works or not, because it won't be dealing with a juvenile crime rate, underachieving student, or dishing out title19 or food stamps to help that child.

    Without children involved, if you and Josh parted ways, you would have to split some property. That's it. There would be no residual harm to society. The same is true for childless heteros.
    Last edited by Jerry; 06-17-09 at 05:14 PM.

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    Re: Obama Extends Fed Benefits to Unmarried Partners, Including Same Sex Partners

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    Brothah, if it's your personal knowledge against mine, I'm pulling rank.
    And I am pulling "your anecdote doesn't mean **** to me".

    Solved that issue squarely.

    As to the rest of your assertion, it is all opinion. You may view it that way, but the law doesn't. Child rearing is not requisite or even particularly encouraged when getting a marriage certificate. It is an arbitrary issue you attach to the gay marriage debate so you can justify your disagreement.


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    Re: Obama Extends Fed Benefits to Unmarried Partners, Including Same Sex Partners

    Quote Originally Posted by NDNdancer View Post
    Yeah, they mean everyone "including same sex partners".


    Not that I've read.
    If Tim and Tim want money they better be homos because regular Tim and Tim even wit their bloodbrothers gift cards..aren't 'partners'.
    Unconstitutional imo

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    Re: Obama Extends Fed Benefits to Unmarried Partners, Including Same Sex Partners

    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    And I am pulling "your anecdote doesn't mean **** to me".

    Solved that issue squarely.

    As to the rest of your assertion, it is all opinion. You may view it that way, but the law doesn't. Child rearing is not requisite or even particularly encouraged when getting a marriage certificate. It is an arbitrary issue you attach to the gay marriage debate so you can justify your disagreement.

    That's one way to avoid the issue, sure. Next time you might post a distracting YouTube

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    Re: Obama Extends Fed Benefits to Unmarried Partners, Including Same Sex Partners

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    That's one way to avoid the issue, sure. Next time you might post a distracting YouTube
    Why? I just undermined your entire argument in a legitimate way. The challenge is on you to support it, which you chose not to do.


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    Re: Obama Extends Fed Benefits to Unmarried Partners, Including Same Sex Partners

    OK, I will bite. Where is it documented in US law that marriage is for raising children, or however you want to word it?

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    Re: Obama Extends Fed Benefits to Unmarried Partners, Including Same Sex Partners

    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    Why? I just undermined your entire argument in a legitimate way. The challenge is on you to support it, which you chose not to do.

    ...yeah if just copy/past the url, vB will display the vid.....

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    Re: Obama Extends Fed Benefits to Unmarried Partners, Including Same Sex Partners

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    ...yeah if just copy/past the url, vB will display the vid.....
    So then...you still don't have any support for this whole marriage being for raising children argument you keep pushing.

    Thanks for playing but you don't move on to the championship round.

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    Re: Obama Extends Fed Benefits to Unmarried Partners, Including Same Sex Partners

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    Personally me and mines never needed a permission slip from the state to validate our love for each other....


    Just sayin.
    That's what we thought. We had a Native ceremony w/o the paper thing with the state. I try to live as traditionally as I can. Imagine my surprise and anger when we split up that we had to get a divorce! I was furious. I refused to pay for an attorney (amazing how the scam works to bilk money from folks for lawyers!) and we just acted like grown ups and worked it out ourselves. We still had to pay a fee to file the papers.
    I am a Tiki Bar Tarte, do you really think you can Tango with me?!?
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