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    Re: Ensign acknowledges extramarital affair

    Quote Originally Posted by aps View Post
    It is truly fascinating to see how many on the right say, "Who cares?" I felt that way yesterday, but that was before I found out:

    (1) he called for Clinton's impeachment over the Monica Lewinsky scandal;

    (2) he called for Larry Craig's resignation for his bathroom scene (which didn't even amount to physical contact);

    (3) he is a member of "Promise Keepers," which says they are "Men with Integrity." Home - Promise Keepers

    He's a ****ing loser, and I am thrilled that this has come out and that his chances of running for president in 2012 are gone. Buh-bye, you unfaithful jerk.

    Being separated from one's spouse is not a termination of the marriage.

    You know, I think that there is the ideal of marriage, and then there is the reality of marriage. And the fact of the matter, all fairy tales aside, is that marriage is f'ing hard. Brutal, even. And many of us have said, "I will NEVER do that," and then we get a few more years under our belts, and we realize how easy it is to either make a mistake or give up.

    I never thought I'd be divorced. But sometimes, you get to a point where you just can't do it anymore. And the ideals that you embraced when you were younger simply aren't attainable.

    I don't judge people very much anymore for these sorts of things. Life is a lot harder than we think when we're young. And really, it's none of my business. i said this about clinton, and I say it now. Don't care.

    This is between this guy and his wife/family. So was the Lewinsky issue.
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    Re: John Ensign Affair: GOP Senator admits relationship with ex-campaign staffer

    Quote Originally Posted by Shep Dawg View Post
    John Ensign Affair: GOP Senator Admits Relationship With Ex-Campaign Staffer

    Will their be as much outrage from the GOP and right wing as there was with John Edwards?

    Didn't this guy take to the Senate floor defending the sanctity of marriage?

    Why would he discriminate against gay marriage on one hand using the sanctity of marriage argument and the violate that same sanctity.

    Apparently he was "friends" with the womans husband, whom also worked for him.
    That has no effect on the sanctity of marriage, just John Ensign.
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    Re: Ensign acknowledges extramarital affair

    Quote Originally Posted by celticlord View Post
    Unless you're arguing that he forced his attentions on the woman, this is a non-argument. She chose to enjoy a man besides her husband--any moral indignation on that side of this soap opera goes to her not to Ensign.
    Anything that doesn't agree with exactly how you feel about something is a non-argument or non-issue. If celticlord doesn't see things your way, it has no validity whatsoever. Blah blah blah blah

    I would be shocked if the majority of people said it's okay for a single person to have an affair with a married person since the single person is, well, single. Even if I was in the minority in feeling that it's immoral to come on to a married person, I wouldn't care. I stand by my assessment whether you think it's a non issue or not.

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    Re: Ensign acknowledges extramarital affair

    Quote Originally Posted by aps View Post
    I stand by my assessment whether you think it's a non issue or not.
    Bully for you. You're still wrong.

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    Re: Ensign acknowledges extramarital affair

    Quote Originally Posted by aps View Post
    Anything that doesn't agree with exactly how you feel about something is a non-argument or non-issue. If celticlord doesn't see things your way, it has no validity whatsoever. Blah blah blah blah

    I would be shocked if the majority of people said it's okay for a single person to have an affair with a married person since the single person is, well, single. Even if I was in the minority in feeling that it's immoral to come on to a married person, I wouldn't care. I stand by my assessment whether you think it's a non issue or not.
    Ah, so you have met Celticlord. Arrogance as political philosophy is a new one to me.

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    Re: Ensign acknowledges extramarital affair

    Quote Originally Posted by celticlord View Post
    Bully for you. You're still wrong.
    Of course I'm wrong....because YOU said so.

    I'm done reading yours posts. They aren't even interesting.

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    Re: Ensign acknowledges extramarital affair

    Quote Originally Posted by aps View Post
    I'm done reading yours posts.
    Somehow, I doubt that.

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    Re: Ensign acknowledges extramarital affair

    Quote Originally Posted by celticlord View Post
    Just the reality of relationships.

    If a man wants to keep his woman, he needs to be taking steps to ensure no other man comes and takes her. If he doesn't, another man will come and take her.

    The only person who's a total loser in this soap opera is the husband. Going back for hush money makes him a pimp, not a man.
    Wow. Talk about cave man mentality.

    So, in CL world, women are merely props to the testosterone laden violence of men, right? We're property that will stray if not watched (with a loaded gun).

    Is that really how you see male/female dynamics?

    This is definitely one of the most bizarre assessments of the marital relationship that I've ever read.

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    Re: Ensign acknowledges extramarital affair

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    Wow. Talk about cave man mentality.

    So, in CL world, women are merely props to the testosterone laden violence of men, right? We're property that will stray if not watched (with a loaded gun).

    Is that really how you see male/female dynamics?

    This is definitely one of the most bizarre assessments of the marital relationship that I've ever read.
    Didn't you know that women are not people?

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    Re: Ensign acknowledges extramarital affair

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Didn't you know that women are not people?
    I was under the mistaken impression that women are people, but Cavemanlord disabused me of that notion.

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