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    Re: John Ensign Affair: GOP Senator admits relationship with ex-campaign staffer

    I also think that it's odd how the sequence of events plays a big role in whether or not people detect hypocrisy.

    For example, if a guy becomes an alcoholic, loses everything he owns, and then becomes an anti-alcohol spokesman, most people would praise him for being proactive and helping people avoid a serious problem in their own lives.

    But if the same guy was an anti-alcohol spokesman and THEN became an alcoholic, people would accuse him of hypocrisy. But really, nothing has changed in these two examples other than the order of events.
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    Re: John Ensign Affair: GOP Senator admits relationship with ex-campaign staffer

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    Meh, seems like a moral gray area to me. But then, I wouldn't even condemn him if he had been cheating on his wife while they were together. I don't know the circumstances behind their marriage and it isn't my place to judge.

    I'm just saying that it's a bit odd for you to claim that the issue here is his moral self-righteousness, when that seems to be exactly the same thing that you're doing here. That's all. I don't think that committing an immoral act (and it's a bit of a stretch to even call this an immoral act) automatically means that one is forever banned from advocating their moral principles without being a hypocrite. We're all human; no one is perfect.
    I see your point. I have stated previously that I am happy that he has gotten a taste of his own medicine. Now he sees what's it like to be Bill Clinton and Larry Craig.

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    Re: Ensign acknowledges extramarital affair

    Quote Originally Posted by Caine View Post
    What is the significance of this?

    What has he done that hundreds of thousands, maybe even millions of other American men have not done?
    Well after we dospense of the items that match, men/cheating we do to the diferences. There are not millons of senators who have made statements condeming or asking for the impeachment of other politicians for doing what he did. There are not milliions of men who are the senator ranked #4 in leadership of his party, paid off their concubines with severence pay, played hide the stick with their staffers whoes husband is also a staffer, been considered a presidential possible, and so on and so on ....
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    Re: Ensign acknowledges extramarital affair

    Quote Originally Posted by F107HyperSabr View Post
    Well after we dospense of the items that match, men/cheating we do to the diferences. There are not millons of senators who have made statements condeming or asking for the impeachment of other politicians for doing what he did. There are not milliions of men who are the senator ranked #4 in leadership of his party, paid off their concubines with severence pay, played hide the stick with their staffers whoes husband is also a staffer, been considered a presidential possible, and so on and so on ....
    Im having a hard time understanding your post since your grammar is horrible.
    "I condemn the ideology of White Supremacy and Nazism. They are thugs, criminals, and repugnant, and are against what I believe to be "The American Way" "
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    Re: John Ensign Affair: GOP Senator admits relationship with ex-campaign staffer

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    I also think that it's odd how the sequence of events plays a big role in whether or not people detect hypocrisy.

    For example, if a guy becomes an alcoholic, loses everything he owns, and then becomes an anti-alcohol spokesman, most people would praise him for being proactive and helping people avoid a serious problem in their own lives.

    But if the same guy was an anti-alcohol spokesman and THEN became an alcoholic, people would accuse him of hypocrisy. But really, nothing has changed in these two examples other than the order of events.
    Order of events is very important. You can repent for what you have done in the past, you cannot repent for what you have not yet done.

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    Re: Ensign acknowledges extramarital affair

    Quote Originally Posted by Caine View Post
    Im having a hard time understanding your post since your grammar is horrible.
    That's not nice at all !! You don't even know my Grandma !! But she will hit you with her cane if I tell her what you said about her.
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    Re: John Ensign Affair: GOP Senator admits relationship with ex-campaign staffer

    Have to ask, is this a situation of lying about having character before the affair, or compromising his character during the affair, or just trying to repair his character after the affair....
    or all of the above?
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    Re: John Ensign Affair: GOP Senator admits relationship with ex-campaign staffer

    Quote Originally Posted by UtahBill View Post
    Have to ask, is this a situation of lying about having character before the affair, or compromising his character during the affair, or just trying to repair his character after the affair....
    or all of the above?
    Great line sir.

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    Re: John Ensign Affair: GOP Senator admits relationship with ex-campaign staffer

    Still waiting for why this is newsworthy.

    Newsflash: Bob the mechanic admits relationship with shop desk clerk! NEWS AT 11!

    what is the difference really? Its his own private affairs.
    "I condemn the ideology of White Supremacy and Nazism. They are thugs, criminals, and repugnant, and are against what I believe to be "The American Way" "
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    Re: John Ensign Affair: GOP Senator admits relationship with ex-campaign staffer

    You know me. I like to stir the pot from time to time. Think I will stir it a bit now.....

    Remember when the National Enquirer and Drudge broke the story on John Edwards? A lot of people thought he was a disgrace. Are the same people defending Ensign now?

    My position? Edwards - Personal business. Ensign - Personal business.

    Republicans? Edwards - Public business. Ensign - Personal business.

    Democrats? Edwards - Personal business. Ensign - Public business.

    Am I calling this one right, or can somebody here correct me?
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