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    Re: Ensign acknowledges extramarital affair

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr_Patrick View Post
    Your property?! Are you serious? What if she stops wanting to be with you? Does her opinion matter in the situation?
    I'm very serious.

    As for the rest, that's a topic for a different thread.

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    Re: Ensign acknowledges extramarital affair

    Quote Originally Posted by celticlord View Post
    I'm very serious.

    As for the rest, that's a topic for a different thread.
    You brought it up! If you don't like people questioning you or your methods perhaps you shouldn't share them with us.

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    Re: Ensign acknowledges extramarital affair

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr_Patrick View Post
    You brought it up! If you don't like people questioning you or your methods perhaps you shouldn't share them with us.
    Question away--in a proper thread.

    If you wish to challenge or debate my views on this, I shall answer all your questions. But it shall not be done in this thread.

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    Re: Ensign acknowledges extramarital affair

    Quote Originally Posted by celticlord View Post
    Question away--in a proper thread.

    If you wish to challenge or debate my views on this, I shall answer all your questions. But it shall not be done in this thread.
    Seriously, what would be a proper thread title or forum for that matter to discuss whether or not women should be viewed as property?

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    Re: Ensign acknowledges extramarital affair

    Quote Originally Posted by celticlord View Post
    Question away--in a proper thread.

    If you wish to challenge or debate my views on this, I shall answer all your questions. But it shall not be done in this thread.
    Okay here we go:

    http://www.debatepolitics.com/polls/...-property.html

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    Re: Ensign acknowledges extramarital affair

    Quote Originally Posted by aps View Post
    Well, Kandahar, I have no respect for someone who has an affair with a married person. So even if I thought, "Well, he and his wife were separated," I would be reminded that the woman with whom he screwed around with was married herself. He is an asshole.
    Why is that his fault? She is the one who cheated on her husband, not him. I would presume that he didn't force her to do it.
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    Re: John Ensign Affair: GOP Senator admits relationship with ex-campaign staffer

    Quote Originally Posted by aps View Post
    Caine, I agree with you. My disgust towards the situation is about Ensign lecturing others about morality, when his own morality is bogus. Come on. This is a guy who said Clinton and Craig should resign because of their immoral behavior. And look at him. That's why I am pissed off. If this was someone who wasn't out there lecturing others publicly on their own morality, I wouldn't care about this situation.
    It seems to me that lecturing others publicly on their own morality is exactly what you are doing right now. Any skeletons in your closet?
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    Re: Ensign acknowledges extramarital affair

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    Why is that his fault? She is the one who cheated on her husband, not him. I would presume that he didn't force her to do it.
    i would say, based on the raises she got [leave it alone] from her jobs the senator controlled, cindy hampton was certainly enticed to "play" ball with him. that she traded sex for money doesn't speak well of her character ... not like that's gonna matter now, anyway


    gotta love the support he is getting:
    As Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.) said yesterday, "I have plenty of sins, and I'm not going to tell you about them."
    is lindsey about to emerge from the closet?
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    Re: John Ensign Affair: GOP Senator admits relationship with ex-campaign staffer

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    It seems to me that lecturing others publicly on their own morality is exactly what you are doing right now. Any skeletons in your closet?
    Of course I have skeletons in my closet!


    Am I really out of the ordinary in thinking that a single person having a relationship with a married person is a complete jerk?

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    Re: John Ensign Affair: GOP Senator admits relationship with ex-campaign staffer

    Quote Originally Posted by aps View Post
    Of course I have skeletons in my closet!


    Am I really out of the ordinary in thinking that a single person having a relationship with a married person is a complete jerk?
    Meh, seems like a moral gray area to me. But then, I wouldn't even condemn him if he had been cheating on his wife while they were together. I don't know the circumstances behind their marriage and it isn't my place to judge.

    I'm just saying that it's a bit odd for you to claim that the issue here is his moral self-righteousness, when that seems to be exactly the same thing that you're doing here. That's all. I don't think that committing an immoral act (and it's a bit of a stretch to even call this an immoral act) automatically means that one is forever banned from advocating their moral principles without being a hypocrite. We're all human; no one is perfect.
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