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White House Blocks Access to Visitor List

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White House Blocks Access to Visitor List - Political News - FOXNews.com

n a move that puts a cloud over transparency, White House officials are blocking access to the lists of the names of visitors to the White House.

The practice, carried over from the Bush administration, argues the public does not need to know who comes calling at the Executive Mansion, even for policy purposes.

"We are deeply disappointed," said Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington spokeswoman Anne Weismann, whose group is suing to get the records.

"The president, who has committed his administration to transparency and accountability, now takes the position of the Bush administration that the public is not entitled to know who visits the White House. These are not the actions of a pro-transparency administration," she said.

Yep folks so much for Hope and Change didn't Mr, Obama stated that his White House would be the most open and transparent in History.

Hmmm guess that all went out the window on Jan. 21 2009 so all of you who voted for Mr. Obama care to comment on this or spin it in the way you feel needed.
 
White House Blocks Access to Visitor List - Political News - FOXNews.com

n a move that puts a cloud over transparency, White House officials are blocking access to the lists of the names of visitors to the White House.

The practice, carried over from the Bush administration, argues the public does not need to know who comes calling at the Executive Mansion, even for policy purposes.

"We are deeply disappointed," said Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington spokeswoman Anne Weismann, whose group is suing to get the records.

"The president, who has committed his administration to transparency and accountability, now takes the position of the Bush administration that the public is not entitled to know who visits the White House. These are not the actions of a pro-transparency administration," she said.

Yep folks so much for Hope and Change didn't Mr, Obama stated that his White House would be the most open and transparent in History.

Hmmm guess that all went out the window on Jan. 21 2009 so all of you who voted for Mr. Obama care to comment on this or spin it in the way you feel needed.

You already took care of that. :roll::roll:

This is a non-story about standard SOP.

Was this different than Clinton, Bush Sr., or Reagan??

Here's what Bernard Goldberg said to Sean Hannity about finding fault with every little think Obama does:

You remember when liberals wouldn't give George Bush credit for anything? If he came up with a cure for cancer, they wouldn't have given him credit for that, and, I'm sorry Sean, I see that on the right now. it's like -- I don't want to put Barack Obama on Mount Rushmore for simply being the commander-in-chief, but we have to stop going out of our way to find fault with every single thing he does. Look, I think I've got a little credibility on this issue, I don't like his economic policies, I don't like his tax policies, I wrote that book A Slobbering Love Affair about how the media slobbered all over him, but I'm not going to be like the left was with George Bush and criticize everything he does.
 
It was never in to start with. These are nothing more than political lies told by a shyster of a Chicago politician to get what he wants and nothing more. Obama is great at telling people what they want to hear, but then doing whatever the hell he wants. He is, in essence, the same as any other shady politician out there including Bush and Clinton and McCain. There is no change, there never was going to be. That's a line put out there for the gullible to swallow. Nothing more nothing less. Politics as usual.
 
You already took care of that. :roll::roll:

This is a non-story about standard SOP.

Was this different than Clinton, Bush Sr., or Reagan??

Here's what Bernard Goldberg said to Sean Hannity about finding fault with every little think Obama does:



Oh I see so Obama proving his transparancy claims are BS is a non-story?

I assume because Obama is full of crap..right?
His claims where fake and he made them only to garner votes form the fringe left ..right?


He "never noticed"?


(Point of the OP's post is the claims of transparancy Obama made are nonsense)
 
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I have been saying for some time that this attitude of complaining about everything that President Obama does diminishes the effectiveness of complaints about the real things he does wrong. The republicans started out right, with the message on the stimulus bill. What's his name, standing up in the senate with a copy of the 800 page bill, saying no one had read it and they had to vote on it was political gold. Since then, with complaints about Michelle Obama's shoes, and the the dinner date in New York, and dozens of other trivial things, and now no one really cares much about the complaints, even when they might be valid.

Just my advice, as some one that you all on the right could get some support from in disliking Obama. Stick to things like a rushed stimulus, like a tax cheat for Treasury Secretary, like a health care bill we cannot afford. Those are winning arguments. Focus down, and don't go after every little thing Obama does.
 
I have been saying for some time that this attitude of complaining about everything that President Obama does diminishes the effectiveness of complaints about the real things he does wrong. The republicans started out right, with the message on the stimulus bill. What's his name, standing up in the senate with a copy of the 800 page bill, saying no one had read it and they had to vote on it was political gold. Since then, with complaints about Michelle Obama's shoes, and the the dinner date in New York, and dozens of other trivial things, and now no one really cares much about the complaints, even when they might be valid.

Just my advice, as some one that you all on the right could get some support from in disliking Obama. Stick to things like a rushed stimulus, like a tax cheat for Treasury Secretary, like a health care bill we cannot afford. Those are winning arguments. Focus down, and don't go after every little thing Obama does.

Redress,

My point is this I could care less if Mr. Obama lets the list become public my problem is the fact that all during the Fall leading up to the Election he stated he would have the most open White House on record since then what has happen the website he was going to let everyone use to send suggest got shut down after the whole Weed Question, the media wasn't allow to cover a few different event he decide for better of worse not to release the photo's I can go on but you get my point.

You can't claim to have the most open White House on record and then do things like this, granted it was the Secrete Service who has said no right now only because of a FOIA Court case brought on by the Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington, still Mr. Obama could stop all of this by saying sure here is the list have fun.
 
This is hilarious:

1) Bush blocks access to visitor list.

2) Obama promises openness.

3) Obama blocks access to visitor list.

I ask you folks once more - What change?
 
I ask you folks once more - What change?

R->D but that's about it. I mean, we've been 16 months from leaving Iraq for how long now? Hahah
 
This is hilarious:

1) Bush blocks access to visitor list.

2) Obama promises openness.

3) Obama blocks access to visitor list.

I ask you folks once more - What change?

Excluding the size of the deficit, government ownership of private businesses, and an impending disaster of a health care bill...none.
 
He has 1.5-3 or so million days to go..one for each US soldier he betrayed in Iraq. Another subject we're not supposed to bring up.



Posting this is important for three reasons.(prob more but yeah)

1. It informs people of information much of the media and the left will never mention.

2. 6 months to a year form now if this becomes a major thing for some odd reason we will all be able to link this thread so our amnesia inflicted leftists cannot either deny it occurred or demand it be proven.

3. It further shows the 'Transparency' claim was a lie made up for reasons Ikari pretty much laid out.


Little things add up and are part of a whole leading to the bigger things. Many flaws in the bigger things have their roots in the little things.


Biggest thing I notice between the Bush bashers and the Obama bashers is that the Bush bashers would make things up and then declare them reality to bash Bush. The Obama bashers cite news items to bash him with. I also bet(air) that after Obama is gone he will garner less mention then Bush has from those who dislike him.
I sure as hell won't waste breath on him once he's gone I'll say yay and deal with whomever the President is at that time and likely rarely if ever mention the dip again.



I will never be a party to being nice to the trash who betrayed my nations soldiers in the field. I will never excuse him for that.
 
CREW received a letter from the Secret Service saying it was unable to provide the records due to pending litigation in the U.S. Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia that CREW already filed.

......................
 
Oh I see so Obama proving his transparancy claims are BS is a non-story?

I assume because Obama is full of crap..right?
His claims where fake and he made them only to garner votes form the fringe left ..right?


He "never noticed"?


(Point of the OP's post is the claims of transparancy Obama made are nonsense)

Nice dodge on the question: How is this different than other Presidents?

It's so f-ing annoying when people can't even acknowledge the legitimate security issues here and jump all over the word 'transparency'.

Instead of seeing all the documents and information now available under the new information -- you focus on something that has not changed.

Could you be anymore overly partisan?:roll::roll:
 
This is hilarious:

1) Bush blocks access to visitor list.

2) Obama promises openness.

3) Obama blocks access to visitor list.

I ask you folks once more - What change?

Hmmmm...Reagan was born in the US. Obama was born in the US. They must be the same too.

Picking one similarity and saying that because of it there is no change overall is silly.
 
Nice dodge on the question: How is this different than other Presidents?

It's so f-ing annoying when people can't even acknowledge the legitimate security issues here and jump all over the word 'transparency'.

Instead of seeing all the documents and information now available under the new information -- you focus on something that has not changed.

Could you be anymore overly partisan?:roll::roll:

I personally don't think this is a big deal, but do you see how some Obama supporters might be upset by this, as it does appear to fly in the face of his "transparency" promise during the campaign? I know some of them are upset, in fact.
 
Nice dodge on the question: How is this different than other Presidents?

It's so f-ing annoying when people can't even acknowledge the legitimate security issues here and jump all over the word 'transparency'.

Instead of seeing all the documents and information now available under the new information -- you focus on something that has not changed.

Could you be anymore overly partisan?:roll::roll:

What other President made a central campaign slogan Transparancy?
Why are you dragging past Presidents into this anyway?

Why are you sidestepping the issue at hand by pointing at past Presidents or claiming your annoyed others have some nefarious goal besides pointing out the obvious BS of Obama.

Could you be anymore overly partisan?

I suppose I could become a Republican or something but I'm independent and will be forever.
 
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I personally don't think this is a big deal, but do you see how some Obama supporters might be upset by this, as it does appear to fly in the face of his "transparency" promise during the campaign? I know some of them are upset, in fact.

But look at the amount of new information that has been made available since day one. Restrictions on documents have been loosen greatly.

How can people not see the obvious security and privacy issues here?

The majority of his meetings are in a daily press release.
 
How can people not see the obvious security and privacy issues here?

Probably for the same reason these same people couldn't see it when the Bush administration restricted the same visitor logs.
 
Probably for the same reason these same people couldn't see it when the Bush administration restricted the same visitor logs.

Was this the SOP prior to Bush? (I don't know the answer, just wondering)

There's legal issues here too. Any executive has to be able to have privileged meetings. That and personal business.

That can be challenged on an issue by issue basis -- but to say that President Obama is breaking a promise because of this -- not even close, IMO.
 
Was this the SOP prior to Bush? (I don't know the answer, just wondering)

There's legal issues here too. Any executive has to be able to have privileged meetings. That and personal business.

That can be challenged on an issue by issue basis -- but to say that President Obama is breaking a promise because of this -- not even close, IMO.

I don't know if it is SOP or not. I'd be surprised if it wasn't.

Again, I don't care either way, I can just relate what I've read by progressives regarding this specific issue, and many aren't happy. Heck, I never figured he'd keep any of his promises, anyway. He is a politician, after all.
 
But look at the amount of new information that has been made available since day one. Restrictions on documents have been loosen greatly.

Yeah we got 10 mostly blacked out pages Obama used to bash Bush followed by 'oh no we can't release the other pages'...

Past that..nothing.
Its even worse with the spending and when you get to CEO Obama's car companies.

That other President in the past may have restricted in the same manner is irrelevant. They didn't make a claim.
Even the direct act in this case is irrelevant.


Obama made a claim and so far he hasn't backed it up past using it to bash Bush and that garnered him a public rebuke.
 
What other President made a central campaign slogan Transparancy?

I hear you. But calling him out on this one particular thing (something so obviously security, national and personal, related) is B.S. -- IMO.

Go read the daily press briefing -- what exactly do think is being hidden from you that you need to know about?
 
I don't even care about this..so minor it should be one of the things he drops to at least look like he's trying to be transparant.

I was just defending the purpose of posting it from those saying we don't need to see this stuff!

Go read the daily press briefing -- what exactly do think is being hidden from you that you need to know about?

Maybe who he's renting the Lincoln Bedroom to. ;)
 
Yeah we got 10 mostly blacked out pages Obama used to bash Bush followed by 'oh no we can't release the other pages'...

Past that..nothing.

Now you just revealed you don't know what you're talking about.

Ask anyone who covers the WH to compare the application of the Freedom of Information Act -- then and now.

Friggin' walk-in safe in Dick's office!! The guy invented new categories of Top Secret and had new stamps made.

Tridad, please, bring some reality and logic to the table next time.

Have a nice day -- :2wave:
 
I hear you. But calling him out on this one particular thing (something so obviously security, national and personal, related) is B.S. -- IMO.

Go read the daily press briefing -- what exactly do think is being hidden from you that you need to know about?

Actually Hazllnut it has nothing to do with National security, to answer a question you ask under Mr. Clinton 2nd Term was the first time that the Guest List was not handed out, this came about the same time as a certain Sex Scandle you might recall that. Prio tot hat all White House Guest List were and had been handed out to the Press and or public. As a matter of point Mr. Reagan love to let everyone know who came by to see him.

As for all the new items that are being release not exactly true on that one either.

Here lies the problem folks it's not like I could care who goes and come's to the West Wing Hell I make the trip at least once a month the problem is this Mr. Obama made avery BIG POINT about how this White House was going ot be the most Open in History and so far that hasn't happen. That has allot of folks on both side calling foul the Left is screaming hey I thought you promise to let us see those Photo's/Documents from GITMO while the Right is screaming see so much for all of the Openess of this White House.

The bottom line is you can't go around claiming your going ot be one thing and then put the keibash on it.
 
White House Blocks Access to Visitor List - Political News - FOXNews.com

n a move that puts a cloud over transparency, White House officials are blocking access to the lists of the names of visitors to the White House.

The practice, carried over from the Bush administration, argues the public does not need to know who comes calling at the Executive Mansion, even for policy purposes.

"We are deeply disappointed," said Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington spokeswoman Anne Weismann, whose group is suing to get the records.

"The president, who has committed his administration to transparency and accountability, now takes the position of the Bush administration that the public is not entitled to know who visits the White House. These are not the actions of a pro-transparency administration," she said.

Yep folks so much for Hope and Change didn't Mr, Obama stated that his White House would be the most open and transparent in History.

Hmmm guess that all went out the window on Jan. 21 2009 so all of you who voted for Mr. Obama care to comment on this or spin it in the way you feel needed.

I'm annoyed by this. He should explain why he has changed his tune. I am okay with him blocking access if he has a valid reason. We can all talk about what we would do if we were Prez, but we really don't know until we're there. But if I said something and then did something else, I would explain why I did something else. That is transparency.
 
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