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    PENCE: "The American Cause Is Freedom..." Introduces Resolution on Iran

    Well, it was only a matter of time. The Iranian State television is already using clips from Limbaugh's show, and FOX News as "proof" that the US is interfering in the Iranian election.

    Pence just upped the ante and played right into Ahmidinejad's hands with this stunt. I hope someone kills this and quickly.

    PENCE: "The American Cause Is Freedom And In This Cause The American People Will Not Be Silent"

    "Let me say from my heart, the American cause is freedom and in this cause the American people will not be silent, here or abroad. If the President of the United States won't express the unqualified support of our nation for the dissidents in the streets of Tehran, this Congress must.

    "Today I'm introducing a resolution that will do just that. It will express its concern regarding the reported irregularities of the presidential election of 12 June, 2009. It will condemn the violence against demonstrators by pro-government militia in Tehran in the wake of the elections. It will affirm our belief in the universality of individual rights and the importance of democratic and fair elections. And lastly, and most importantly, it will express the support of the American people for all Iranian citizens who struggle for freedom, civil liberties and the protection of the rule of law."
    What's ironic, Obama pretty much said the same thing over two hours ago. But very much more diplomatically without taking an official stance.

    What's dangerous about this, is that it "looks" like an official move by our government condemning Iranian election process. For the uninformed in Iran, that's exactly how it will be played out over the State run media.

    Trying to make a point at the president's expense, may wll exacerbate the situation.
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    Re: PENCE: "The American Cause Is Freedom..." Introduces Resolution on Iran

    Hope it goes forward.
    Nice to see someone in the USA word the language towards Iran in a manner aligned with the United States of America's principles instead of a man saying nothing to preserve his stated desire to talk no matter what.

    "I come to this floor at an extraordinary moment on the global stage.

    "According to the Islamic Republic News Agency, the official news agency of Iran, President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad supposedly won the election over his primary opponent on 12 June, 2009. But from the very moment that that election result was announced, the international community and the international press called it into question. The basis for that, even before the extraordinary demonstrations had begun to take place, was the fact that these were paper ballots. But the official government results of the election were announced literally within hours of the polls being closed. Various media outlets around the world questioned the authenticity of the results.

    "Mr. Mousavi, the defeated candidate, has launched a legal appeal against the election results. On the day of the election, mobile phone communications were interrupted. Western media has reported, ‘heavy electronic jamming, disturbing broadcasts.' News websites were reportedly blocked by Iranian authorities and the Iranian government has allegedly arrested opposition political figures and journalists. The Iranian government has outlawed any protest following two days of extraordinary unrest. The BBC recently reported that recent rallies in the streets of Tehran were the biggest demonstrations in the Islamic Republic's 30-year history.

    "The protest, according to news reports, became violent and, according to media reports, pro-government forces attacked demonstrators in the last 24 hours, causing at least one fatality. We are witnessing a Tiananmen in Tehran, and the United States of America must stand in the gap on behalf of those brave Iranian citizens who are standing for free and fair elections, democracy and basic rights.

    "Freedom in fact may be flowering in Iran as hundreds of thousands rally for democracy and free elections. While I appreciate President Obama's comments yesterday at the White House that he was, ‘troubled by the violence,' and his belief that the voices of the Iranian people should, be ‘heard and respected,' it seems by my lights that this administration has yet to express the unqualified support of the American people for those who are courageously taking to the streets for free elections and for democracy in Iran.

    "Let me say from my heart, the American cause is freedom and in this cause the American people will not be silent, here or abroad. If the President of the United States won't express the unqualified support of our nation for the dissidents in the streets of Tehran, this Congress must.

    "Today I'm introducing a resolution that will do just that. It will express its concern regarding the reported irregularities of the presidential election of 12 June, 2009. It will condemn the violence against demonstrators by pro-government militia in Tehran in the wake of the elections. It will affirm our belief in the universality of individual rights and the importance of democratic and fair elections. And lastly, and most importantly, it will express the support of the American people for all Iranian citizens who struggle for freedom, civil liberties and the protection of the rule of law.

    "Believe it or not in my small town of Columbus, IN, I grew up next door to a Hungarian immigrant who fled Hungary in the wake of the Soviet repression of the Hungarian revolution in 1956. I sat often with Julius Perr, now passed away, and heard of the way the Hungarian people, inspired by our calls for freedom, stood up for their own freedom. And as Brett Stephens recounts in today's Wall Street Journal we stood by idly. We didn't want to interfere. And the Soviet tanks rolled.

    "We cannot stand idly by, speak of Iran's sovereignty, speak of her own right to choose her own leadership at a time when hundreds of thousands of Iranians are risking their lives to stand up for free elections and democracy.

    "Ronald Reagan said, ‘No arsenal, or no weapon in the arsenals of the world, is so formidable as the will and moral courage of free men and women.' All of us desire a fresh start with Iran and it seems from news reports and the extraordinary images coming from the streets of Iran that millions of Iranians long for a new start in their government. There is a reformist movement afoot in Iran.

    "Today I'll introduce a resolution. I urge all my colleagues in both parties to join me in expressing their support for these brave and courageous men and women."
    That is what a President of the United States should be saying.
    Unfortunately we don't have one atm.

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    Re: PENCE: "The American Cause Is Freedom..." Introduces Resolution on Iran

    Quote Originally Posted by Triad View Post
    Hope it goes forward.
    Nice to see someone in the USA word the language towards Iran in a manner aligned with the United States of America's principles instead of a man saying nothing to preserve his stated desire to talk no matter what.



    That is what a President of the United States should be saying.
    Unfortunately we don't have one atm.
    NPR: Mousavi To Supporters: Don't Rally Today

    Listen to Burns, he actually knows something about diplomacy and politics in Iran. Pence obviously doesn't. In case you don't know who Burns is, he was the under secretary for Iran in the Bush administration. He was key in Iranian policy during Bush's administration. According to him, Obama's doing exactly the right thing.

    What Pence just did, was cut the legs out from under him and insert the US in the center of this. Ahmindinejad and the mullahs will use what Pence has done to make the US the enemy. Good job!


    Dick Lugar: Obama Doing The Right Thing In Iran
    But the leading Republican on the Senate Foreign Relations Committee thinks the Obama administration's arms-length stance is just right.

    "I think for the moment our position is to allow the Iranians to work out their situation," said Sen. Richard Lugar of Indiana. "When popular revolutions occur, they come right from the people." He said he did not think it would be wise for the United States "to become heavily involved in the election at this point."

    And from a right wing pundit.
    The Daily Dish | By Andrew Sullivan
    Quote For The Day III
    "When your adversary is making a fool of himself, get out of the way. That is a rule of politics Lyndon Johnson once put into the most pungent of terms. U.S. fulminations will change nothing in Tehran. But they would enable the regime to divert attention to U.S. meddling in Iran’s affairs and portray the candidate robbed in this election, Mir-Hossein Mousavi, as a poodle of the Americans...

    The dilemma for America is that the theocracy defines itself and grounds its claim to leadership through its unyielding resistance to the Great Satan—the United States—and to Israel. Nevertheless, Obama, with his outstretched hand, his message to Iran on its national day, his admission that the United States had a hand in the 1953 coup in Tehran, his assurances that we recognize Iran’s right to nuclear power, succeeded. He stripped the Ayatollah and Ahmadinejad of their clinching argument—that America is out to destroy Iran and they are indispensable to Iran’s defense," - Patrick Buchanan.
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    Re: PENCE: "The American Cause Is Freedom..." Introduces Resolution on Iran

    It takes nothing but movement of lips to say your going to do nothing and neither should anyone else.

    It takes character to stand up and say these are our nations principles and we support them.

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    Re: PENCE: "The American Cause Is Freedom..." Introduces Resolution on Iran

    On one hand, who in Iran really gives a ****? By the time passions reach these levels, minds are made up. If it weren't this, it'd be some other items being paraded before the Iranians who are likely to believe it. The Iranian govt's move isn't to sway supporters, it's to rile the already faithful.
    So, in that sense what a Representative does or doesn't do is only almost a hill of beans.

    On the other, I think it's entirely appropriate, fitting, reasonable and satisfyingly irksome to be vocally in favor of what Pencer says the bill does:
    It will express its concern regarding the reported irregularities of the presidential election of 12 June, 2009. It will condemn the violence against demonstrators by pro-government militia in Tehran in the wake of the elections. It will affirm our belief in the universality of individual rights and the importance of democratic and fair elections. And lastly, and most importantly, it will express the support of the American people for all Iranian citizens who struggle for freedom, civil liberties and the protection of the rule of law.
    I am sure if one were to ask the sitting and the presumptive Iranian govt elect, they would also say that they share much of the same sentiments--with the possible exception of the condemnation of the violence.
    Quote Originally Posted by Triad View Post
    It takes nothing but movement of lips to say your going to do nothing and neither should anyone else.
    It takes character to stand up and say these are our nations principles and we support them.
    To every thing a season...
    Last edited by Simon W. Moon; 06-17-09 at 12:57 AM.
    I may be wrong.

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