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    Re: ABC News Teams Up With Obama White House to Present President's Health Care Plan

    Quote Originally Posted by Badgered Mushroom View Post
    I'm not sure what propaganda campaign you're talking about,
    I'll give you a hint: health care.

    Quote Originally Posted by Badgered Mushroom View Post
    but if it has to do with the "socialism", "marxism", "communism", or "Stalinism" tags that I've seen come from FOX I'd rather not hear about it.
    Well, badgers do spend most of their time with their heads buried underground.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Badgered Mushroom View Post
    There isn't any reporting involved here. From what I gather, it's going to be free air time for Obama to talk about his healthcare reform plan, nothing more.
    Yes.

    That's called propaganda in honest countries.

    Quote Originally Posted by Badgered Mushroom View Post
    You may as well not even call it news, he's just using ABC's air time to speak to the public. What's the big deal?
    See my previous post.

    See also the importance of an independent media as opposed to a fawning biased advocacy media.

    Quote Originally Posted by Badgered Mushroom View Post
    Again, I think this should be required, especially during elections, so that the electorate can be better informed about candidates and policies. Democrats, Republicans, Greens, Libertarians, Democratic Socialists, etc, should all be allowed free air time in order for the public to better understand themselves and the options available to them.
    People that want air time should pay for it, like every good capitalist. Damn socialists think everything should be free, and aren't mature enough to understand that everything has a price.

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    Re: ABC News Teams Up With Obama White House to Present President's Health Care Plan

    Quote Originally Posted by talloulou View Post
    Things like hour long prime time infomercials specials featuring the current sitting President aimed at selling a policy are not common; as far as I know it's unprecedented. Now again, it may not play off as an hour long infomercial -but that's the fear.
    Yep. The far-right partisans think we're all a bunch of dolts who can't vet and discuss any information on our own. The OP, the RNC letter, it's a preemptive spin strike. Discredit the show before it's even aired.

    Let it air -- then let's discuss. Its not unheard of for a president to go on TV in this fashion.

    Just because Sean and Rush aren't going to be in the audience, doesn't mean it's not fair and balanced.

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    Re: ABC News Teams Up With Obama White House to Present President's Health Care Plan

    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow Akhbar View Post
    An informed electorate has all sides of the issue.

    The Messiah isn't going to present the flip side of what he proposes, like, it'll be five times more expensive than he's going to say it is, it's going to be like going to the DMV, that it will reduce the quality of care from what most people currently recieve, and that it just won't work.

    His not going to mention anything as minor as that.

    And another question arises. ABC is going to give this boy an hour of prime-time propaganda space for a partisan political purpose. Is that a multi-million contribution to Obama's re-election campaign, or just to the DNC? What are the caps on donations to a political party or candidate from corporate sources? Since this is an exclusive informercial failing to meet journalistic standards for unbiased news reporting, it can't be counted as "public service".
    HOLY HELL! You mean a politician is only going to present his side of an issue? Good lord, that never happens in this country...

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    Re: ABC News Teams Up With Obama White House to Present President's Health Care Plan

    Quote Originally Posted by hazlnut View Post
    Yep. The far-right partisans think we're all a bunch of dolts who can't vet and discuss any information on our own. The OP, the RNC letter, it's a preemptive spin strike. Discredit the show before it's even aired.
    If you were capable of constructive thought, you wouldn't be on the Left.

    Quote Originally Posted by hazlnut View Post
    Let it air -- then let's discuss. Its not unheard of for a president to go on TV in this fashion.
    List the times Bush was donated an exclusive hour of free prime time to promote a specific domestic policy program by any major media outlet.

    Answer: Never.


    Quote Originally Posted by hazlnut View Post
    Just because Sean and Rush aren't going to be in the audience, doesn't mean it's not fair and balanced.
    No, it's on ABC, which means no balance at all. Ol' Charlie has shown himself to be quite the biased reporter, too. He's gonna be the t-ball pitcher.

    Oh, wait. T-ball doesn't have a pitcher, does it. Charlie's gonna be the post the balls are set on for the easy hits.

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    Re: ABC News Teams Up With Obama White House to Present President's Health Care Plan

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    HOLY HELL! You mean a politician is only going to present his side of an issue? Good lord, that never happens in this country...
    So you're not going to address any of the points raised.

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    Re: ABC News Teams Up With Obama White House to Present President's Health Care Plan

    Quote Originally Posted by Badgered Mushroom View Post
    I'm not sure what propaganda campaign you're talking about, but if it has to do with the "socialism", "marxism", "communism", or "Stalinism" tags that I've seen come from FOX I'd rather not hear about it.

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    There isn't any reporting involved here. From what I gather, it's going to be free air time for Obama to talk about his healthcare reform plan, nothing more. You may as well not even call it news, he's just using ABC's air time to speak to the public. What's the big deal?

    Again, I think this should be required, especially during elections, so that the electorate can be better informed about candidates and policies. Democrats, Republicans, Greens, Libertarians, Democratic Socialists, etc, should all be allowed free air time in order for the public to better understand themselves and the options available to them.
    Well we will see how it goes. I heard he is going to also be on Good Morning America that morning and than also have the hour long special later. A speech is different from a special in that a speech is just the nuts and bolts with no fancy whistles. A special can come complete with bells and whistles. Given the rock star status Obama already receives I'm wary of him suddenly running infomercials. It was bad enough when he had his own channel during the campaign.

    Obama is on tv so much it actually startles me. Did anyone see that press briefing where Obama just popped in to talk about the retiring Souter? I thought that was a little weird. And everyone ooohd and aaaahd about his surprise presence. Last night I swear I saw coverage of Obama killing a fly. I have no idea who was interviewing him or what he was talking about. But I know the guy rocks so hard and is so cool he can snatch a fly out of the air, crush it, and fling it to the floor. Oh and the report also mentioned that he's a good boy and cleans up after himself to. Apparently after the interview was over - who knows what was said in the interview (not key to the story?) Obama picked the fly up off the floor to throw it in the trash.

    My God, WTF is happening to us? I hope we snap out of it.

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    Re: ABC News Teams Up With Obama White House to Present President's Health Care Plan

    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow Akhbar View Post
    So you're not going to address any of the points raised.
    I did. Pay attention.

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    Re: ABC News Teams Up With Obama White House to Present President's Health Care Plan

    Quote Originally Posted by talloulou View Post
    Obama is on tv so much it actually startles me. Did anyone see that press briefing where Obama just popped in to talk about the retiring Souter? I thought that was a little weird. And everyone ooohd and aaaahd about his surprise presence. Last night I swear I saw coverage of Obama killing a fly. I have no idea who was interviewing him or what he was talking about. But I know the guy rocks so hard and is so cool he can snatch a fly out of the air, crush it, and fling it to the floor. Oh and the report also mentioned that he's a good boy and cleans up after himself to. Apparently after the interview was over - who knows what was said in the interview (not key to the story?) Obama picked the fly up off the floor to throw it in the trash.

    My God, WTF is happening to us? I hope we snap out of it.
    That is different from watching President Bush clear brush on his farm how?

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    Re: ABC News Teams Up With Obama White House to Present President's Health Care Plan

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    That is different from watching President Bush clear brush on his farm how?
    First off, I watch tons of cable news. It's on all day while I'm doing stuff here in the house. I've never seen Bush clear brush on his farm. But if such footage did air I imagine if that's what he was doing at the time then it was a fluff piece. However Obama was presumably sitting down and being interviewed last night. Yet the coverage, on every channel, consisted of look how cool this dude is...he can snatch an f-ing fly out of the air. It's weird. Obama's on tv way too much and he has some weird effect on folks. It's nauseating.

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    Re: ABC News Teams Up With Obama White House to Present President's Health Care Plan

    Quote Originally Posted by talloulou View Post
    My God, WTF is happening to us? I hope we snap out of it.
    Nope, I'm expecting that soon enough the KoolAid Men will be going door-to-door to make sure you took your daily dose, or else.

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