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    Re: ABC News Teams Up With Obama White House to Present President's Health Care Plan

    Quote Originally Posted by talloulou View Post
    I don't take issues with speeches. Were Obama giving a speech on Heathcare reform I'd expect ABC and everyone else to cover it during prime time.

    I'm a little more weary when it comes to packaged propaganda type hour long specials featuring the President.

    I'll have to see the program to have an actual opinion on it but if it even remotely plays like an infomercial it'll disgust me.
    Things like that are pretty common. One of my favorite stories from the Bush the younger administration was about the release to the press of his tax cut plan. He promised select outlets a 24 hour early scoop(leak) on the plan, if they promised not to interview anyone critical of the plan for those 24 hours.

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    Re: ABC News Teams Up With Obama White House to Present President's Health Care Plan

    Quote Originally Posted by Badgered Mushroom View Post
    Perhaps I'm missing something, but there's nothing here that is at all frightening about a media outlet allowing the President (or any other politician for that matter) to talk freely (and for free) about their plans. Actually, I'd love to see more things like this open to candidates of any party (or lack thereof) during the election cycle in order to create a more informed electorate.

    Again, someone please enlighten me as to why I should be worried about this. Thanks in advance.
    Presidents give speeches. As to what an hour long special is... I haven't a clue. But if it plays like an hour long ad then I'll be disgusted. However if it's an actual discussion with actual opposition presented it could be great. If they're calling it questions for the President then it shouldn't come off like a propaganda piece. It may not. But if it does....

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    Re: ABC News Teams Up With Obama White House to Present President's Health Care Plan

    "Folks like you assembled a grassroots movement that shocked the political establishment and changed the course of our nation. When Washington insiders counted us out, we put it all on the line and changed our democracy from the bottom up. But that's not why we did it."
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    Shocked the political establishment!? LOL!!! What a load of Orwellian nonsense. Ever since he's taken office the "political establishment" has grown and expanded like never before and shows no sign of slowing down. Obama won't stop until his socialistic vision of America comes to fruition; layer upon layer of bureaucracy and cronyism; government largess and class warfare - that's what he envisions.

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    Re: ABC News Teams Up With Obama White House to Present President's Health Care Plan

    Quote Originally Posted by talloulou View Post
    Presidents give speeches. As to what an hour long special is... I haven't a clue. But if it plays like an hour long ad then I'll be disgusted. However if it's an actual discussion with actual opposition presented it could be great. If they're calling it questions for the President then it shouldn't come off like a propaganda piece. It may not. But if it does....
    How about if the media just discusses the hell out of it for a week, and gives lots and lots of republicans a chance to complain about it. Congressman Camp(R-MI) was on Morning Joe this morning talking about the republican health care plan, and gave a damn good interview.[ame=http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3036789/#31404785]Morning Joe[/ame]

    Edited to add: Note to our republican friends: this is how to be effective against Obama...promote your ideals, don't just complain about Obama.
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    Re: ABC News Teams Up With Obama White House to Present President's Health Care Plan

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Things like that are pretty common. One of my favorite stories from the Bush the younger administration was about the release to the press of his tax cut plan. He promised select outlets a 24 hour early scoop(leak) on the plan, if they promised not to interview anyone critical of the plan for those 24 hours.
    Things like hour long prime time infomercials specials featuring the current sitting President aimed at selling a policy are not common; as far as I know it's unprecedented. Now again, it may not play off as an hour long infomercial -but that's the fear.

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    Re: ABC News Teams Up With Obama White House to Present President's Health Care Plan

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    How about if the media just discusses the hell out of it for a week, and gives lots and lots of republicans a chance to complain about it. Congressman Camp(R-MI) was on Morning Joe this morning talking about the republican health care plan, and gave a damn good interview(Morning Joe).
    The 24 hours news cables do this with everything with some commentators obviously leaning one way or another. That has been true across the board, both sides, all 24 cable news networks.

    It has nothing to do with prime time specials featuring the President. Nothing like this has been done before which is why it has folks worked up.

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    Re: ABC News Teams Up With Obama White House to Present President's Health Care Plan

    Quote Originally Posted by Badgered Mushroom View Post
    Perhaps I'm missing something, but there's nothing here that is at all frightening about a media outlet allowing the President (or any other politician for that matter) to talk freely (and for free) about their plans. Actually, I'd love to see more things like this open to candidates of any party (or lack thereof) during the election cycle in order to create a more informed electorate.

    Again, someone please enlighten me as to why I should be worried about this. Thanks in advance.
    You mean like the difference between reporting a whole story and being used to promote a single-sided propaganda campaign?

    It doesn't bother you when the news organizations responsible for informing the public about important events refuse to tell the entire story and rather promote the political agenda of a single party?

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    Re: ABC News Teams Up With Obama White House to Present President's Health Care Plan

    It's interesting that there isn't yet a promo ad for the special. I'd be curious to see what tone the promo would take.

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    Re: ABC News Teams Up With Obama White House to Present President's Health Care Plan

    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow Akhbar View Post
    You mean like the difference between reporting a whole story and being used to promote a single-sided propaganda campaign?

    It doesn't bother you when the news organizations responsible for informing the public about important events refuse to tell the entire story and rather promote the political agenda of a single party?
    I'm not sure what propaganda campaign you're talking about, but if it has to do with the "socialism", "marxism", "communism", or "Stalinism" tags that I've seen come from FOX I'd rather not hear about it.

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    There isn't any reporting involved here. From what I gather, it's going to be free air time for Obama to talk about his healthcare reform plan, nothing more. You may as well not even call it news, he's just using ABC's air time to speak to the public. What's the big deal?

    Again, I think this should be required, especially during elections, so that the electorate can be better informed about candidates and policies. Democrats, Republicans, Greens, Libertarians, Democratic Socialists, etc, should all be allowed free air time in order for the public to better understand themselves and the options available to them.
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    Re: ABC News Teams Up With Obama White House to Present President's Health Care Plan

    Quote Originally Posted by Badgered Mushroom View Post
    An informed electorate can only do good things for this country.
    An informed electorate has all sides of the issue.

    The Messiah isn't going to present the flip side of what he proposes, like, it'll be five times more expensive than he's going to say it is, it's going to be like going to the DMV, that it will reduce the quality of care from what most people currently recieve, and that it just won't work.

    His not going to mention anything as minor as that.

    And another question arises. ABC is going to give this boy an hour of prime-time propaganda space for a partisan political purpose. Is that a multi-million contribution to Obama's re-election campaign, or just to the DNC? What are the caps on donations to a political party or candidate from corporate sources? Since this is an exclusive informercial failing to meet journalistic standards for unbiased news reporting, it can't be counted as "public service".

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