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    Claims of student massacre spread

    Claims of student massacre spread - Middle East, World - The Independent

    I peered out. The gates of the university were now shut. Behind them was a crowd of hundreds of young men and women, many wearing scarves over their mouths. I crossed the road. And the banners behind those forbidding gates told a frightening story. "Today is a day of mourning," one of them read. "Dignified students are mourners today." "Police, shame on you, shame on you." "Tell my mother – she doesn't have a son any more."
    I am beginning to think it may not matter much whether this story is more rumor than fact. Somebody did some killing at Tehran University, and the students are blaming the Basiji militias and the police.

    If rumours of student deaths and violent suppression start spreading, an uprising could be difficult to control.
    It is too soon to know anything with certainty, but news items like this make me wonder if this protest has turned (or is about to turn) the corner into outright rebellion.

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    Re: Claims of student massacre spread

    TEHRAN, Iran (AFP) – Seven people were killed when a military post was attacked near a rally held a day ago in Tehran to protest the re-election of President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, radio Payam announced.
    Seven people killed near Tehran rally site: radio - Yahoo! News


    Ahmedinejad has left Iran. From the liveblog at HuffPost: Iran Updates (VIDEO): Live-Blogging The Uprising

    1:04 AM ET -- Is Ahmadinejad's exit an alarming sign? There are a slew of reports coming in about new violence in Iran. I've been trying to sift through and find as much evidence as possible. In the meantime, however, reader Salim makes a critical point about the apparent newly-aggressive crackdown: "not surprised...they will want to crush this now, before it gets out of hand... and Ahmadinejad is out of country so it would not reflect on him...this is probably well orchestrated." Not clear if this is the case, of course, but well worth considering.

    1:01 AM ET -- Ahmadinejad lands in Russia. Via Diane Tucker, the AFP reports:

    YEKATERINBURG (Russia) - IRAN'S President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad arrived in Russia on Tuesday to attend a regional security summit, in his first foreign trip following his disputed re-election, an official in the Iranian delegation told AFP.

    'Yes, yes, yes, his plane is now sitting' at the airport in the Russian city of Yekaterinburg in the Urals Mountains, the Iranian official said on condition of anonymity.

    12:40 AM ET -- The clerics reject Ahmadinejad. A moment from Monday's rally, from the Wall Street Journal's report tonight: "A young cleric from the Shiite holy city of Qom addressed the crowd. 'I have come to bring you a message from Qom," he said. "Without a doubt, all clerical scholars are against the current situation. The only person acceptable to them is Mr. Mousavi, they have rejected Mr. Ahmadinejad's request to meet them in the past two days.'"

    Hats off to the Journal reporters working in Iran, Farnaz Fassihi and Roshanak Taghavi among them, whose daily reports are the most vivid and powerful coming out of the U.S. print media.


    [lots of video's, go to the blog to see them]


    10:09 PM ET -- The 7 demands. An Iranian-American friend comments, "that's asking for a revolution baby..."

    7 point statement distributed among the protesters in Tehran today:

    1. Dismissal of Khamenei for not being a fair leader
    2. Dismissal of Ahmadinejad for his illegal acts
    3. Temporary appointment of Ayatollah Montazeri as the Supreme Leader
    4. Recognition of Mousavi as the President
    5. Forming the Cabinet by Mousavi to prepare for revising the Constitution
    6. unconditional and immediate release of all political prisoners
    7. Dissolution of all organs of repression, public or secret

    Looks like it's turning into a full blown uprising. There's even rumors of some of the elite Revolutionary Guard being arrested. Unconfirmed rumor, but if it's true, then Khamenei's losing some of his power base.
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    Re: Claims of student massacre spread

    I would like to see these claims confirmed before they are propagated so readily as fuel for the Western desire to see the Iranian government overthrown.

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    Re: Claims of student massacre spread

    TEHRAN, Iran (AFP) – Seven people were killed when a military post was attacked near a rally held a day ago in Tehran to protest the re-election of President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, radio Payam announced.
    Keep in mind, AFP is reporting what the Iranian media is reporting. That version of events may not be accurate. From the BBC:

    "Several thugs wanted to attack a military post and vandalise public property in the vicinity of Azadi Square," the radio said referring to the site of the protest...

    The BBC's Jon Leyne in Tehran says that in light of what he saw of the vast and largely peaceful protests this seems an unlikely version of events.

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    Re: Claims of student massacre spread

    The Mullahs need to go. Time to "loose" some guns.

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    Re: Claims of student massacre spread

    Supplementing the BBC report disputing the Iranian government's version of events, The New York Times' Lede blog has the following snippet:

    Update | 9:42 a.m. A reader in Iran, Somayeh, writes to say that she was present during the incident on Monday evening, when Iranian security forces killed at least seven protesters, according to state radio. Somayeh says that “there was silence and anger” until “riot police and Basiji hardliners shoved through the crowd” and started shooting. She adds: “although I was rescued by people, I feel that I’m already dead.”

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    Derka-Derka?

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    Re: Claims of student massacre spread

    Quote Originally Posted by donsutherland1 View Post
    Supplementing the BBC report disputing the Iranian government's version of events, The New York Times' Lede blog has the following snippet:

    Update | 9:42 a.m. A reader in Iran, Somayeh, writes to say that she was present during the incident on Monday evening, when Iranian security forces killed at least seven protesters, according to state radio. Somayeh says that “there was silence and anger” until “riot police and Basiji hardliners shoved through the crowd” and started shooting. She adds: “although I was rescued by people, I feel that I’m already dead.”
    Apparently, after this occurred, the protesters attacked a Basiji building and burned it to the ground.

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    Re: Claims of student massacre spread

    Never is there a more crystal clear demonstration of the necessity to keep and bear arms as there is in the actions taken in Iran against its People currently.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Never is there a more crystal clear demonstration of the necessity to keep and bear arms as there is in the actions taken in Iran against its People currently.
    Good lord you gun nuts can use anything to push your agenda. That is just sad.

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