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II think the writers and lettrman did not due thier due dilligence in researching the facts before making a tasteless joke they thought was about bristol at a yankee game. When it came to light that it was willow and not bristol, they immediatly should have apologized.
Agree completely with you here. I think Letterman and his writers were idiots who did a horrendous job of researching. They were typical comedy writers, not news reporters, who probably didn't think past "The famous Palin daughter is Bristol, Palin had a daughter at the game, Bristol got Pregnant, lets make a joke about Bristol getting Pregnant at the game"
Letterman's half asses apology initially was just that, half assed, though it did acknowledge he wasn't make the joke about Willow I believe.
The fact is, the joke was about the 14 year old, whether they like it or not. And when it came to light thats how many read it, instead of immediatly doing the right thing and apologizing they went on the attack initially only later after pressure did he apologize.
No, its not. The Fact is, the joke ended up refering to the 14 year old. For it to have been "about" the 14 year old it would've needded to be created with said 14 year old in mind. You seem to believe it is so, which how you seem to believe that boggles my mind, I however believe it was "about" Bristol. I however have stated how I can understand how people could read it that way, INITIALLY, until they took time to actually look at the situation logically instead of from emotional or hyper partisan lens. I also stated I can FULLY understand how a parent, whose the only one LEGITIMATELY closely connected with this will be more prone to over react that some random person on a message board. And I also believe that Letterman is extremely classless and it doesn't surprise me he didn't apologize because, while it could've been read that way, he felt he didn't mean it that way so why should he have to apologize...becuase he's a bit of a dick.
The jokes even about an 18 year old were abhorrent and classless.
Without question, and I've said such over and over again. As have MOST of the people on the left that have been participating in these threads...they, like me, just have issues with people misrepresenting what the joke was to score political points.
Think of it like a hate crime thing.
White guy punches black guy cause black guy was hitting on his girlfriend. I have no problem going "Wow, that's wrong, you don't punch a guy".
Black Guy's friends then all start saying "Its a hate crime, its a hate crime, its a hate crime" based on EXTRMELEY specious evidence that it was a white guy hitting a black guy.
At that point, I start going "Wow, you all are over reacting. No its not, stop being dishonest."
This does not mean I AGREE with the white guy hitting the black guy, I don't. But the over reaction, in my mind, makes the other side just about as bad as they're essentially admitting the original thing wasn't that bad so they had to try and make an even bigger deal out of it.
That's what's happening here.
If the hyper partisans and emotionally charged people on the Right were going "That was a classless and abhorent attack, and he should be ashamed of himself for not checking his facts better to find out that he accidently slandered Willow, along with Bristol, by aiming it in context at Bristol while mistakenly causing it in practice to seem to target Willow."
But its not, they're mostly going
He made a joke about rape, he's making jokes about raping kids, he was talking about child molestation, he was making light of statutory rape, etc etc. All of which implies he was intentionally and willfully attempting to target Willow.
The large amount of you are no different than the black guy that screams "hate crime" to try and make a situation worse based on little logical evidence.
And I would feel the same exact way about an 18 year old/15 year old obama daughter, clinton daughter, etc.
And I don't believe you. Not about you thinking it classless and abhorrent, but the fact you'd still be droning on about the "rape" thing. I don't believe you for a moment. I think you'd be one to give a "pat pat" it was classless response, while then telling those on the left that were over exaggerating it that they were being illogical and over exaggerating and trying to make a case out of nothing.
This is not my position.
Except it basically is.
Evidence that it was likely Willow? He talked about the daughter at the baseball game, and Willow as at the baseball game.
Evidence that it was likely Bristol? Bristol is the most famous Palin daughter, the one most often talked about and thought of. Bristol is the one known for being pregnant. Bristol is of legal age making it a pregnancy joke, classless but at least not insinuating illegality as it would have to be with Willow. Letterman does not have a history of making jokes about pedophilia, underage sex, or other such things.
Sorry, I can't fathom how someone can think the people that prepared that joke were honestly, in any way, making it with Willow Palin in mind. Which means the only way you can say that it was them trying to make a "joke about rape" is that the intent doesn't matter at all, only the result, and therefore if that's the case then if you have a sexual thought about a girl that's underage without knowing she's underage then you're a pedophile because its the result, not the intent, that matters.