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    Re: Letterman- Apology take 2

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    What amazes me most is how Palin is willing to use her dysfunctional family as a political "tool" to gain more air time on national tv.
    What is dysfunctional about Palinís family?

    She has a daughter who became pregnant at 17 and now has a baby at 18. Whatís dysfunctional about that?

    That she didnít secretly get an abortion? Because Todd Palin didnít beat her? Because Sarah Palin didnít throw her out of the family? Because they didnít force their daughter and the father into a shotgun wedding? That her daughter is one of 50 million women if not more in this country who first became pregnant as an unmarried teenager?

    There are many legitimate criticisms of Gov. Palin. But having a dysfunctional family isnít one of them. Herís is a particularly functional family. The one thing that impressed me about Palin is her refusal to ever state anything but love of and loyalty to her daughter. No attempts to get her to criticize her daughter were successful.

    sazerac is correct. Those calling themselves liberals used to understand the important concept of tolerance. Now many are sneering out every manner of bigotry and prejudice with despicable levels of moral judgmentalism.

    I am an election judge for the local Democratic Party. I am not someone who parrots slogans. This shift of some falsely self described liberals from being highly tolerant to more judgmental than the most radical rightwing Christians is pitiful. They are slinging out moral condemnations, religious bigotries, racial bigotries and gender bigotries beyond anything I read Republicans doing. This forum reeks of it from those falsely portraying themselves as liberal Democrats when they are screaming like rightwing religious hate fanatics.

    What I see happening is many of the Democratic talking heads going more moralistic rightwing than Pat Robertson. It would appear a result of us winning the election is a rush of new style bigots and sexists over to our side.

    GET THE FÖK OUT OF MY DEMOCRATIC PARTY!

    For the record. Anyone who became pregnant or got a woman pregnant outside of marriage or as a teenager is completely welcome in MY Democratic party. Anyone who has a problem with you can have their ass thrown out the door. (Thatís one of the things election judges can do.)
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    Re: Letterman- Apology take 2

    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    He should have given a sincere apology to start with. Making jokes about raping 14 year olds is what I would consider beyond "coarse".

    And your calling her igloo girl only demeans any perception of your intelligence much more than it demeans the governor of alaska.
    First of all I did say inmy opening dialogue that Letterman should have made a better apology last. His joke was not about the 14 year old as you guys like to lie about it and attempt to spin it into something worse.

    I can assign all the knicknames I want and if you cannot apprepiate a good knckname maybe that says more about youthan me.

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    Re: Letterman- Apology take 2

    Quote Originally Posted by WillRockwell View Post
    He wasn't referring to the 14 year old (and you know it). The joke was only funny referring to how easy Bristol is. Remember, she's the one that got knocked up by a dumbass redneck at 17.
    Jallman who likes to throw out personal insults knows well that Letterman was referring to the 18 year old. Iam not defending that but let's try some honesty!!
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    Re: Letterman- Apology take 2

    Quote Originally Posted by WillRockwell View Post
    No, I'm basing it on broadcast interviews with the dumbass redneck. You didn't see them, or did you not notice because he is so much like you?
    Come on now let's not not make personal insults. Personal insults are acceptable when diected towards personalities and politicians but why grant what's his name any respect by insulting him ?

    Maybe if we ignore those who make personal attacks they will play in another sandbox.
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    Re: Letterman- Apology take 2

    Quote Originally Posted by F107HyperSabr View Post
    Jallman who likes to throw out personal insults knows well that Letterman was referring to the 18 year old. Iam not defending that but let's try some honesty!!
    I am surprised that jallman is using the "statutory rape" interpretation. Letterman's joke was crude, but there is just no way in hell he would imply statutory rape in his joke. That's not Letterman. His apology sounded sincere (and not forced).

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    Re: Letterman- Apology take 2

    It was a crude joke that didn't go over well. I've heard worse. I remember years ago Howard Stern did this bit about a school bus crash where he had sound effects and all as he mimicked the real events of an actual school bus crash. That was worse.

    This was crude, the guy tucked tail between his legs and said sorry, and now it's over. What the hell? I can not understand discussing it for days on end.

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    Re: Letterman- Apology take 2

    It was a tasteless and inappropriate joke, but some people are taking this a tad too far. Some of the outrage I've seen both on the boards and on tv has been a bit ridiculous. People are now petitioning and protesting CBS to have Letterman fired over this silly joke. I'm no fan of Letterman, but come on! During the Presidential campaign people made a ton of jokes directed at Palin and her daughter. Where was the outrage then? Letterman apologized. It's time to get over it.

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    Re: Letterman- Apology take 2

    Quote Originally Posted by F107HyperSabr View Post
    First of all I did say inmy opening dialogue that Letterman should have made a better apology last. His joke was not about the 14 year old as you guys like to lie about it and attempt to spin it into something worse.

    I can assign all the knicknames I want and if you cannot apprepiate a good knckname maybe that says more about youthan me.

    If you don't like what I post don't read my posts and don't make personal insults, and just go away!! Personal insults are against the rules and we want o keep this forum civil.
    Blah. I made a general comment about the appalling level of ignorance that a senseless nickname shows about the person mindlessly flinging it. If you identify with the object of that observation, perhaps you should make an adjustment to your behavior rather than demand an alteration to the observation.

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    Re: Letterman- Apology take 2

    Quote Originally Posted by aps View Post
    I am surprised that jallman is using the "statutory rape" interpretation. Letterman's joke was crude, but there is just no way in hell he would imply statutory rape in his joke. That's not Letterman. His apology sounded sincere (and not forced).
    And I have repeatedly, now, stated that his apology is acceptable. I even stated when all this broke that I saw no need to call for his job or head. A sincere apology would suffice.

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    Re: Letterman- Apology take 2

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    What is dysfunctional about Palinís family?

    She has a daughter who became pregnant at 17 and now has a baby at 18. Whatís dysfunctional about that?

    That she didnít secretly get an abortion? Because Todd Palin didnít beat her? Because Sarah Palin didnít throw her out of the family? Because they didnít force their daughter and the father into a shotgun wedding? That her daughter is one of 50 million women if not more in this country who first became pregnant as an unmarried teenager?

    There are many legitimate criticisms of Gov. Palin. But having a dysfunctional family isnít one of them. Herís is a particularly functional family. The one thing that impressed me about Palin is her refusal to ever state anything but love of and loyalty to her daughter. No attempts to get her to criticize her daughter were successful.

    sazerac is correct. Those calling themselves liberals used to understand the important concept of tolerance. Now many are sneering out every manner of bigotry and prejudice with despicable levels of moral judgmentalism.

    I am an election judge for the local Democratic Party. I am not someone who parrots slogans. This shift of some falsely self described liberals from being highly tolerant to more judgmental than the most radical rightwing Christians is pitiful. They are slinging out moral condemnations, religious bigotries, racial bigotries and gender bigotries beyond anything I read Republicans doing. This forum reeks of it from those falsely portraying themselves as liberal Democrats when they are screaming like rightwing religious hate fanatics.

    What I see happening is many of the Democratic talking heads going more moralistic rightwing than Pat Robertson. It would appear a result of us winning the election is a rush of new style bigots and sexists over to our side.

    GET THE FÖK OUT OF MY DEMOCRATIC PARTY!

    For the record. Anyone who became pregnant or got a woman pregnant outside of marriage or as a teenager is completely welcome in MY Democratic party. Anyone who has a problem with you can have their ass thrown out the door. (Thatís one of the things election judges can do.)
    Criticism of the Igloo Girl for her dysfunctional family is out of line. What is also out of line is your talking big about being an "election judge". I do not believe you that you are an election judge of any party. Even if by some magic you're an election judge - who cares!! That does not make your opinion more mportant or valid than anyone elses.

    Oh you are so "powerful" that you can " have their ass thrown out the door. (Thatís one of the things election judges can do" . WOW Ain't you so 'potent'. If that was rue and you can wield that power that would be an abuse of power. Speaking of abuse of power or position isn't that what the Igloo Girl did in troopergate!! Missuse, abuse, overuse of power by anyone is dispicable. The bottom line here is that no one cares if you are an election judge or a doorman in a whorehouse we all have the right to an opinion and our opinion stands on what we say and how we say it and not on who we think we are or who we want others to think we are.
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