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    Re: America's 'Bermuda solution' angers Britain

    Quote Originally Posted by WillRockwell View Post
    They are "former terrorist suspects" because they were judged to be innocent...by the Bush administration. What is your problem with releasing innocent people?
    You really never read what the link is about do you? Just react based on feelings.

    I'm not the one upset about O's actions... the UK is ticked off.

    But you'd have to ya know.. read to get that part.
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    Re: America's 'Bermuda solution' angers Britain

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    You really never read what the link is about do you? Just react based on feelings.

    I'm not the one upset about O's actions... the UK is ticked off.

    But you'd have to ya know.. read to get that part.
    Do you work at being dense or does it just come natural? You do remember writing this, don't you?

    Obama get's praised for "reaching out" to our enemies... while pissing all over our allies.

    Gotta love it.
    Please explain how releasing four innocent detainees constitutes "pissing all over our allies"?

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    Re: America's 'Bermuda solution' angers Britain

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    America's 'Bermuda solution' angers Britain - Americas, World - The Independent

    Let's see...

    Bush was slammed for "Angering" all our allies with his "My way or the highway" talk.

    Obama get's praised for "reaching out" to our enemies... while pissing all over our allies.

    Gotta love it.
    You do not think that overall, President Obama's foreign policy is doing better than President Bush's. I understand that you and a few other rabid right types will focus on every negative and ignore every positive, but overall, Obama has done fairly well in foreign policy.

    Let's look at this week. He handled the election in Iran properly, taking a wait and see, to find out who actually won. Netanyahu also said he was willing to support a two state solution, giving in to pressure from Obama some. And he annoyed Britain a tad. Overall, how would you grade this week?

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    Re: America's 'Bermuda solution' angers Britain

    I Guess they just wanted them to disapear, and what better place for that then the Bermuda............


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    Re: America's 'Bermuda solution' angers Britain

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    You do not think that overall, President Obama's foreign policy is doing better than President Bush's. I understand that you and a few other rabid right types will focus on every negative and ignore every positive, but overall, Obama has done fairly well in foreign policy.
    Overall, he's been a dismal failure. Apologies are not the way to diplomatic success. Appeasements don't work either.

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Let's look at this week. He handled the election in Iran properly, taking a wait and see, to find out who actually won. Netanyahu also said he was willing to support a two state solution, giving in to pressure from Obama some. And he annoyed Britain a tad. Overall, how would you grade this week?
    That's hardly a major policy shift for Netanyahu. Netanyahu's primary stance on the Palestinian question has always been summed up in two words: "defensible borders"; he is vehemently opposed to having a declared enemy of Israel permanently established on the West Bank.

    On the Iran bit--that's hardly a challenge. What else could he say?

    And you wish to use those "successes" to offset willfully irritating a longtime ally......yeah, that really doesn't work out, does it? Kudos for finding homes for four Uighers, but major deductions for the artlessness of the solution (releasing them just isn't that much of a diplomatic imperative that one has to go around tweaking our friends' noses).

    Grade for the week? D+

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    Re: America's 'Bermuda solution' angers Britain

    Quote Originally Posted by Gibberish View Post
    Yet the fact that you all make consistent on hit posts attacking Obama and so called "fawning followers" but in the past attacked people that did this same thing to Bush isn't hypocritical?
    So you're not denying that you're giving The Messiah a free pass after having attacked The Liberal Bush for doing exactly the same things?

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    Re: America's 'Bermuda solution' angers Britain

    Quote Originally Posted by Gibberish View Post
    And if Obama did nothing but appease the UK you would attack him for pandering to other nations. What exactly could Obama have done that you would approve of other then leave office?
    Leaving office is a good start.

    Then he can go back to his homeland in Kenya.

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    Re: America's 'Bermuda solution' angers Britain

    Quote Originally Posted by WillRockwell View Post
    They are "former terrorist suspects" because they were judged to be innocent...by the Bush administration. What is your problem with releasing innocent people?
    If they're "innocent" as claimed, why were they not released either in the United States directly or given the opportunity to depart to the land of their free choosing?

    What's wrong with your Messiah?

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    Re: America's 'Bermuda solution' angers Britain

    Quote Originally Posted by celticlord View Post
    Overall, he's been a dismal failure. Apologies are not the way to diplomatic success. Appeasements don't work either.
    Nice exagerations


    That's hardly a major policy shift for Netanyahu. Netanyahu's primary stance on the Palestinian question has always been summed up in two words: "defensible borders"; he is vehemently opposed to having a declared enemy of Israel permanently established on the West Bank.
    It is a shift. It is the first time(or so the couple articles I saw both claim, I am not an expert) he has endorsed two state.

    On the Iran bit--that's hardly a challenge. What else could he say?
    Axis of evil? Jumped onto one side or the other on the election? There were definite bad options there, he did not take them.

    And you wish to use those "successes" to offset willfully irritating a longtime ally......yeah, that really doesn't work out, does it? Kudos for finding homes for four Uighers, but major deductions for the artlessness of the solution (releasing them just isn't that much of a diplomatic imperative that one has to go around tweaking our friends' noses).

    Grade for the week? D+
    You greatly exaggerate the negative reaction to this. I doubt it will have any real effect on our relationship with Britain.

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    Re: America's 'Bermuda solution' angers Britain

    Quote Originally Posted by WillRockwell View Post
    Please explain how releasing four innocent detainees constitutes "pissing all over our allies"?
    You mean outside of not informing our alleged "ally" that they're being sent to their island? And they can't be too innocent, given the fact that the UK is steamed over the incident.

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