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    Re: Bill will ban 'white only' BNP.

    Race-based government legislation is what has made institutionalized racism and slavery possible for hundreds of years. Now the tradition continues, only with different groups getting the short end of the stick.

    All democracy is based on collectivist violence, whether racial or otherwise.

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    Re: Bill will ban 'white only' BNP.

    Quote Originally Posted by Apocalypse View Post
    So I take it as a statement from you that a country that banned a party from partaking in the election is no longer a democracy, yes?
    Without legal grounds, absolutely.

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    Re: Bill will ban 'white only' BNP.

    A political party should be open to all, regardless of race, sex, sexual orientation and religion. Any party not living up to these basic principles should be denied access to run candidates in any democratic election.

    Now the BNP can be a neo nazi racist xenophobic homophobic scum party that it is and run for elections as long as they allow everyone who wants to be a member to become a member. Anti-discrimination is a basic principle of any modern democracy, especially if the discrimination is based on race, sex, sexual orientation or religion.
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    Re: Bill will ban 'white only' BNP.

    We live in a democracy, do we not ??
    If at least 75% vote for a prohibition of any hate/racist/criminal group in politics....then, so be it..
    The Blacks, IMO, are NOT racist...in a sense...as a minority should be allowed "extra space"....

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    Re: Bill will ban 'white only' BNP.

    Quote Originally Posted by earthworm View Post
    The Blacks, IMO, are NOT racist...in a sense...as a minority should be allowed "extra space"....
    What?

    Blacks can be just as racist as anyone else.

    And why should minorities get extra leg room compared to others?


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    Re: Bill will ban 'white only' BNP.

    Quote Originally Posted by earthworm View Post
    The Blacks, IMO, are NOT racist...in a sense...as a minority should be allowed "extra space"....
    This deserves some kind of basement nomination for inadvertent racism while pretending to be highly tolerant.

    "You know those black people just can't act any better...."

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    Re: Bill will ban 'white only' BNP.

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    A political party should be open to all, regardless of race, sex, sexual orientation and religion. Any party not living up to these basic principles should be denied access to run candidates in any democratic election.
    Why? If you don't like it then don't support that party.

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    Re: Bill will ban 'white only' BNP.

    Quote Originally Posted by alexa View Post
    Well, I'm not sure that it is as straighforward as that.
    Actually, it is.

    Quote Originally Posted by alexa View Post
    I can remember years ago, women picketing Men's clubs so that they would allow women in.
    And in a free society, those women would still be outside, because the freedom of association has no meaning unless it includes the freedom from association, too.

    Quote Originally Posted by alexa View Post
    We also have laws about employment rights.
    Those rights do not exist. The job belongs to the employer, who, in a free society, chooses whoever he wants to fill the jobs, using whatever criteria he wants to.

    The employee has no right to a job, since a job is nothing more than a task someone is willing to pay someone else to perform rather than doing it himself.

    Quote Originally Posted by alexa View Post
    We do have laws which protect people against discrimination.
    Why? Free societies do not chain their citizens.

    Any of them, until an actual crime is committed. Real crimes are crimes the involve violence, theft, fraud, and the like. Not hiring someone isn't a crime by any sensible use of the word.

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    Re: Bill will ban 'white only' BNP.

    Quote Originally Posted by alexa View Post
    The other night on Question Time, a weekly political program, someone said he had a list of the No of BNP members who had criminal convictions and it took 2 pages of A4 to fit them all in.
    So?

    The Democrats in the US House of Representatives have an impeached federal judge as a member in good standing. The Democrats in the Senate have a KKK member as their longest serving member.

    Politicians are born criminals, why should the BNP in England be any different? How does your list compare to the criminals in office in the other parties?

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    Re: Bill will ban 'white only' BNP.

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    A political party should be open to all, regardless of race, sex, sexual orientation and religion. Any party not living up to these basic principles should be denied access to run candidates in any democratic election.

    Now the BNP can be a neo nazi racist xenophobic homophobic scum party that it is and run for elections as long as they allow everyone who wants to be a member to become a member. Anti-discrimination is a basic principle of any modern democracy, especially if the discrimination is based on race, sex, sexual orientation or religion.
    Aren't you being discriminatory on grounds of political belief? I don't think anyone should be forced to curtail their political beliefs just because some think it un-PC or whatever.
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