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And then for some like me, we don't give a **** because tasty = dead. :2razz:
And then for some like me, we don't give a **** because tasty = dead. :2razz:
There is, among some, a legitimate concern over factory farms which is why many go out of their way and wallets to eat meat that lived a good life vs eating meat that was stressed, medicated, and lived a torturous existence prior to consumption.
I prefer meat that lived a good life. I do believe in a good kill vs bad kill dichotomy when it comes even to food. Some things I would never eat; like veal.
So if he waterboarded the cat would it have constituted animal abuse?
I prefer meat that lived a good life. I do believe in a good kill vs bad kill dichotomy when it comes even to food. Some things I would never eat; like veal.
I don't think veal is tasty so I am against the way they are killed.
And yes, you can taste a difference in meat that is free range grass fed versus meat you buy in the grocery store. It's worth the extra dollar or two per pound.
Yes, but only because cats really really really hate water.
How they are killed doesn't bother me in the least. It's how they are raised that makes me nauseaus.
If that kid did that to one of my cats he would never get the chance to develop in to a functioning serial killer as I would brake every single bone in his body, kick every one of his teeth out and would repeat those steps again & again every time I got out of jail for doing it.
I'm not coming down on anyone because I have indulged it myself...but I have no clue how a discussion about a disturbed young man became a discussion of the merits of free range beef versus factory farm beef.
Because, silly, everyone knows young men who prefer factory farm beef all become serial killers!
Really? Because looking back on it, I see the point of derailment being some drivel about how a singular young man with emotional disturbances mutilating the neighborhood's cats is somehow comparable to consumption of meat by society at large. :doh
If these were his own cats, I'd see nothing wrong with it. Conversely, if he did the same thing to other people's livestock, I'd have a problem.
No, you do not see argumentum ad populum emerging again. Your pseudo intellectual posturing blinds you.
There is, among some, a legitimate concern over factory farms which is why many go out of their way and wallets to eat meat that lived a good life vs eating meat that was stressed, medicated, and lived a torturous existence prior to consumption.
Well, there happens to be a certain Peter Singer acolyte on the forum who buys that stuff.
Actually, your response was a perfect definition of an argumentum ad populum. You defended the moral status of a practice simply because of majority approval of it, as far as I could tell. If you meant to convey a different sentiment, please share it with us.
No, it is not. That's what you desperately want to portray it as.
Did you not defend the broad act of slaughter on the grounds that it was an accepted human cultural institution, while the violent mutilation of cats was not? That's a precise example of an argumentum ad populum; you defended the ethical status of a behavior on the grounds of its relative popularity.
I'm glad there is; I'm certainly aware of it. I'm merely questioning why there's a strong condemnation of this individual even among those who are relatively apathetic to similar suffering (because of similar or greater sensory capacities), that livestock undergo during preparation for human consumption. The answer is because there's an emotional detachment that exists between people and such animals, while none exists between the same people and domesticated pets. However, that's not a rational defense, of course.
Is this one of the things you were joking about? *I* can't tell. :doh
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Now from here on, you are talking to yourself if you intend to address drivel such as our diets, human consumption of animal products, etc in relation to a disturbed young man mutilating neighborhood pets.
You are correct that the grocery store has largely detached folks from the process of hunting and respecting the meat that they eat. The horror of many factory farms is not on the radar while strolling thru Safeway. Plus there's tons of ignorance, avoidance, laziness, and denial involved on a large scale.
However that issue is completely different from a deranged 18 year old molesting and killing random neighborhood pets.