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18-year old charged in Florida cat mutilations

But I'll give you another opportunity here: Advance an ethically consistent position that permits the violent slaughter of livestock, but not of domestic pets that also asserts that it's uniquely wrong to kill such pets.

It's not that cats and dogs are any more entitled to life than cows and pigs. I don't think it has anything to do with ethics...it's the WAY in which he killed the animals that is disturbing. When someone intentionally kills someone's pet, mutilates it, and does it over and over again for no particular reason...there is something psychologically wrong with them. They have all the warning signs of becoming a serial killer.
 
It's not that cats and dogs are any more entitled to life than cows and pigs. I don't think it has anything to do with ethics...it's the WAY in which he killed the animals that is disturbing. When someone intentionally kills someone's pet, mutilates it, and does it over and over again for no particular reason...there is something psychologically wrong with them. They have all the warning signs of becoming a serial killer.

Correct. It demonstrates a disturbing detachment from social norms that should set off a flurry of alarms and deserves intense examination.

If he went to a a pasture and did the same thing in the same way to future beef cattle or pigs bound for slaughter, there's no difference. His desire to kill and mutilate is the disturbing issue, not what particular animal he practiced his deviation on.
 
It's not that cats and dogs are any more entitled to life than cows and pigs. I don't think it has anything to do with ethics...it's the WAY in which he killed the animals that is disturbing. When someone intentionally kills someone's pet, mutilates it, and does it over and over again for no particular reason...there is something psychologically wrong with them. They have all the warning signs of becoming a serial killer.

Of course. But that would be an indication of a person merely needing medical treatment for such mental instabilities. The intensely emotional and aggravated responses posted here indicated a reaction of extreme fury instead, presumably because of the suffering inflicted on the animals in question.
 
Of course. But that would be an indication of a person merely needing medical treatment for such mental instabilities. The intensely emotional and aggravated responses posted here indicated a reaction of extreme fury instead, presumably because of the suffering inflicted on the animals in question.

I agree with this. While I understand the anger of the people who lost their pet, I don't think he should get a prison sentence or anything like that. Obviously he needs mental help before he harms a human. I think he'd be much better off in a mental hospital than in a prison.
 
I agree with this. While I understand the anger of the people who lost their pet, I don't think he should get a prison sentence or anything like that. Obviously he needs mental help before he harms a human. I think he'd be much better off in a mental hospital than in a prison.

I think so too, yeah.
 
Yeah this is a highly disturbing story... if someone did something like this to my cat or dog.. man.. I don't know what I would do but it wouldn't be good for that person.

But I have to say, as a child I did used to pour salt on snails. My Dad told me the snails were bad cause they ate his plants, so i used to go around pouring salt on them, or sometimes i would take apart their shells that they were in and like squish them. I guess that's not different than a kid with a magnifying glass on an ant hill. Do you think that kids who use magnifying glasses or salt on snails have something wrong? I mean i'm perfectly normal college student party party chicks etc, so I know i'm not a serial but u know kids do that stuff ?

I don't think there is a correlation between cats and snails tho... I love my cat :)
 
Yeah this is a highly disturbing story... if someone did something like this to my cat or dog.. man.. I don't know what I would do but it wouldn't be good for that person.

But I have to say, as a child I did used to pour salt on snails. My Dad told me the snails were bad cause they ate his plants, so i used to go around pouring salt on them, or sometimes i would take apart their shells that they were in and like squish them. I guess that's not different than a kid with a magnifying glass on an ant hill. Do you think that kids who use magnifying glasses or salt on snails have something wrong? I mean i'm perfectly normal college student party party chicks etc, so I know i'm not a serial but u know kids do that stuff ?

I don't think there is a correlation between cats and snails tho... I love my cat :)

What you did is not nice but completely different. It is a gruesome game to pour salt on snails, but they do not react like vertebrates, it is not that kind of sadistic behaviour. It is a childish kind of curiosity, you do not enjoy to experience the pain you induce, you do not enjoy the blood and you do not automatically lack the normal kind of empathy we have with creatures that cry, suffer or die.

I do not say that it is normal to torture insects but it is a huge gap between that and ripping vertebrates in the degree of degeneration. It has a reason that there are laws that protect animals that oftentimes protects vertebrates and endotherms only and leave out insects.
 
Killing tasty animals = good

Killing non-tasty animals = not good

/debate. :2razz:

There are ways to make many animals taste good.

But does this mean I shouldn't be killing insects? Cause...**** mosquitoes.
 
There are ways to make many animals taste good.

But does this mean I shouldn't be killing insects? Cause...**** mosquitoes.

Good point. Let me alter my statement:

Killing naturally tasty animals = good

Killing vermin = good

Killing non-naturally tasty and non-vermin animals = not good.

That better?
 
Good point. Let me alter my statement:

Killing naturally tasty animals = good

Killing vermin = good

Killing non-naturally tasty and non-vermin animals = not good.

That better?

Are you qualifying non-naturally tasty animals as cats and dogs? Some cultures eat them the same as we eat beef and chicken.
 
Are you qualifying non-naturally tasty animals as cats and dogs? Some cultures eat them the same as we eat beef and chicken.

No. Just personal preference of tasty vs. non tasty. If a dude killed a cat and then ate it, he could say on the witness stand "It was soooooo tasty!" and I'd vote to acquit him of any charges if I were on the jury.
 
No. Just personal preference of tasty vs. non tasty. If a dude killed a cat and then ate it, he could say on the witness stand "It was soooooo tasty!" and I'd vote to acquit him of any charges if I were on the jury.

Even if the cat belonged to someone else?
 
Even if the cat belonged to someone else?

I should say that I would acquit him of any animal cruelty charges that would go along with it. Property damage is another thing entirely.

If it was his cat that he ate, I'd acquit. If he didn't eat it, I wouldn't.
 
I should say that I would acquit him of any animal cruelty charges that would go along with it. Property damage is another thing entirely.

If it was his cat that he ate, I'd acquit. If he didn't eat it, I wouldn't.

Would you acquit if he tortured the animal (his cat) for days before killing it?
 
Seriously, MG, this was a joke that is being taken too seriously. Don't you know me by now? :lol:
 
Maybe he was just a scientist in training looking for an answer to an age old question......














How many ways are there to skin a cat?......:3oops:
 
I could use that kid right now. My cats in heat again, and I can't get her fixed at the spay nueter clinic, because when I took her there last time, she had a seizure before the operation and they said I have to have it done at a vets office which is like $200 plus the cost of bloodwork to find the cause of her seizures.

I'm not spending hundreds of dollars on a cats uterus.
 
I could use that kid right now. My cats in heat again, and I can't get her fixed at the spay nueter clinic, because when I took her there last time, she had a seizure before the operation and they said I have to have it done at a vets office which is like $200 plus the cost of bloodwork to find the cause of her seizures.

I'm not spending hundreds of dollars on a cats uterus.

Shove a firecracker up there. That'll do the trick AND make for a fun 4th of July.


Multi-tasking at it's finest.
 
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