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    Re: 18-year old charged in Florida cat mutilations

    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    No, there is no such cause except on a purely pseudo-intellectual level. It has nothing to do with this boy's emotional disturbances.
    I see an assertion...I don't see an argument.

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    Re: 18-year old charged in Florida cat mutilations

    Quote Originally Posted by Agnapostate View Post
    I see an assertion...I don't see an argument.
    I have no interest in arguing the relationship between apples and hubcaps.

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    Re: 18-year old charged in Florida cat mutilations

    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    I have no interest in arguing the relationship between apples and hubcaps.
    On what specific ground do you argue there is no legitimate comparison? My reference is merely to other nonhuman animals that are at times capable of feeling greater pain and to suffering to a greater extent than cats are. Why is it not appropriate to compare them to cats? Therein lies the premise that you must defeat through argumentation.

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    Re: 18-year old charged in Florida cat mutilations

    Quote Originally Posted by Agnapostate View Post
    On what specific ground do you argue there is no legitimate comparison?
    That an industry and accepted establisment of both human ecology and society is not comparable to a singular act of barbarity by a disturbed child.

    There was no purpose in this child's actions save to bring harm and to sate some unnatural desire. The same cannot be said of our diets.
    Last edited by jallman; 06-16-09 at 02:08 AM.

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    Re: 18-year old charged in Florida cat mutilations

    Quote Originally Posted by Agnapostate View Post
    This is certainly an unpleasant spectacle, but why is the reality that other animals continue to be brutally slaughtered on a daily basis for the purpose of human consumption ignored if this is criticized? Such animals often possess sensory capacities similar to those of a cat, and thus an equivalent or greater capacity to suffer from their own imprisonments and eventual deaths. Do cats deserve some greater consideration because of their domestication and emotional partiality towards them on the part of humans? It seems far more ethically sound to make such determinations on the basis of the ability to suffer.
    Yes, it's darwinism at its finest.

    If a cow could run and jump in the air to catch a frisbee, they might live longer.

    If a chicken could kill a bird or a mouse and leave it on your door step as an offering of his loyalty, he might keep his head.

    A pig can snuggle up with us at night, but not nearly as good as dog and cats can. Sorry, pig. Can't make a BLT without you.

    I recommend pigs get themselves a spider that can spell if they want to live longer.

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    Re: 18-year old charged in Florida cat mutilations

    Quote Originally Posted by hazlnut View Post
    Yes, it's darwinism at its finest.

    If a cow could run and jump in the air to catch a frisbee, they might live longer.

    If a chicken could kill a bird or a mouse and leave it on your door step as an offering of his loyalty, he might keep his head.

    A pig can snuggle up with us at night, but not nearly as good as dog and cats can. Sorry, pig. Can't make a BLT without you.

    I recommend pigs get themselves a spider that can spell if they want to live longer.
    I think it is more about our social norms than it is about darwinism. I have owned cattle that I didn't want to see go.

    The lack of empathy this young man felt toward an animal and his emotional distance from norms makes me immediately suspicious of some kind of sociopathy if not psychopathy.

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    Re: 18-year old charged in Florida cat mutilations

    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    I think it is more about our social norms than it is about darwinism. I have owned cattle that I didn't want to see go.

    The lack of empathy this young man felt toward an animal and his emotional distance from norms makes me immediately suspicious of some kind of sociopathy if not psychopathy.
    If cat meat tasted like Kobe Beef -- It's darwin.

    Yes, the kid has issues.

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    Re: 18-year old charged in Florida cat mutilations

    Quote Originally Posted by bub View Post
    How much will he get?

    I hope as much as possible, what he did is not forgiveable.
    Just think about the families...

    What about a castration?
    In Florida, aminal crulety is a felony that can draw up to 10 years in prison per offense. So he is potentially facing a life sentence; however, I doubt it will go that far.

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    Re: 18-year old charged in Florida cat mutilations

    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    That an industry and accepted establisment of both human ecology and society is not comparable to a singular act of barbarity by a disturbed child.

    There was no purpose in this child's actions save to bring harm and to sate some unnatural desire. The same cannot be said of our diets.
    So the brutal mutilation of cats would be acceptable to you if it were a widespread element of their preparation for human consumption? I do have to see that argumentum ad populum emerging again.

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    Re: 18-year old charged in Florida cat mutilations

    Quote Originally Posted by hazlnut View Post
    Yes, it's darwinism at its finest.

    If a cow could run and jump in the air to catch a frisbee, they might live longer.

    If a chicken could kill a bird or a mouse and leave it on your door step as an offering of his loyalty, he might keep his head.

    A pig can snuggle up with us at night, but not nearly as good as dog and cats can. Sorry, pig. Can't make a BLT without you.

    I recommend pigs get themselves a spider that can spell if they want to live longer.
    Really? Then why keep mentally retarded humans alive? They seem relatively useless according to these criteria.

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