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    Re: Minuteman leader arrested for double homicide

    Quote Originally Posted by chevydriver1123 View Post
    Why can't people ever follow the BN rules?

    Seriously wtf? They aren't hard.

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    Re: Minuteman leader arrested for double homicide

    Quote Originally Posted by NDNdancer View Post
    In the past month, hasn't there been a HUGE upswing in right wing domestic terrorist activity?
    Uh, no. 1234

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    Re: Minuteman leader arrested for double homicide

    My comments in BLUE:
    Quote Originally Posted by NDNdancer View Post
    Oh, and which part was unfair?

    A group, of three, Minutemen, were arrested for murdering a drug dealer AND HIS 9 YEAR OLD DAUGHTER while trying to rob the said drug dealer to get a pile of money to further their cause.
    Partially. In all the stories I have read, only one of the arrested persons (the female) is stated to be the leader of one of the groups calling themselves Minutemen. Specifically, a group called "Minutemen American Defense". (Source 1) Although another story states she is a former leader in some group called "Minuteman Civil Defense Corps". (Source 2) Perhaps the latter was too reasonable for her, and the result was MAD?

    Are they not right wing extremists?
    Very likely. All evidence points to at least the female being so.

    Did they not murder an innocent?
    According to police, only one of them (not the female MAD leader) did the actual murdering, but yes.

    To further their cause?
    As far as I know, yes.

    Did not Republicans demand Napolitano apologize for a report that predicted this very thing?
    No idea.

    In the past month, hasn't there been a HUGE upswing in right wing domestic terrorist activity?
    No idea. Haven't been paying enough attention.

    Just which part was unfair?
    The overall tone and accuracy of your statement, which attempted to toss a whole bunch of other people/groups under it's damning canopy.

    Oh yeah, I got it...... "They "allegedly" murdered...... "
    That too.

    Please, do let me fix that. IF this is true...... (refer to my first post).
    If by "this" you refer to the statement attacking your statement as unfair, then it is true.

    There ya go!
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    Re: Minuteman leader arrested for double homicide

    Hey ND, here's the link you should have used.

    U.S.- Mexican border watchers arrested in killings of dad, girl in Arizona - BostonHerald.com


    Three people, including the leader of a border watch group and an officer within that group, were arrested in connection with a May 30 home invasion that left a father and his daughter dead and the mother wounded, authorities said.

    One of those arrested, Shawna Forde, is the leader of Minutemen American Defense, a group out of Washington state that conducts operations along the U.S.-Mexican border in Arizona. The group is not related to either the Minuteman Civil Defense Corps founded by Chris Simcox, or the Minuteman Project founded by Jim Gilchrist.

    Authorities also arrested Jason Eugene Bush, 34, who serves as operations director for the Washington group, and Albert Robert Gaxiola, 42, in connection with the shooting deaths of Raul Flores, 29, and his 9-year-old daughter, Brisenia Flores, said Pima County Sheriff Clarence Dupnik.

    hmmmmm...

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    Re: Minuteman leader arrested for double homicide

    Quote Originally Posted by NDNdancer View Post
    The AP story makes it clear, these people, group of 3, killed two people to further their group's cause, hoping to get money from a drug dealer to make thier group more "sophisticated".

    They've been charged of two counts of murder. But not convicted.
    It sounds like Forde is on the outs with the group and had gone rogue.

    The Sahuarita Sun > Breaking News > Suspect in murders headed Minuteman group

    But her association didn’t last long, and within Minuteman group circles Forde is controversial, according to a February article from the Daily Herald in Everett, Wash.

    Hal Washburn, vetting officer for Washington state chapter of the Minuteman Civil Defense Corps, said Forde was encouraged to leave the group over questions about honesty and her inability to follow orders, according to the story. San Diego Minutemen lists Forde among people they won’t work with, calling her “unstable.”

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    Re: Minuteman leader arrested for double homicide

    IOW a person who is viewed as an extremist in the overall anti-immigrant thing committed a crime.

    Has nothing to do with the Minuteman anymore then The Order has to do with being Protestant.





    But on the other hand all bi-racials who commit a crime crime are caused by Obama.

    Silly people.

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    Re: Minuteman leader arrested for double homicide

    Quote Originally Posted by The silenced majority View Post
    Hey ND, here's the link you should have used.

    U.S.- Mexican border watchers arrested in killings of dad, girl in Arizona - BostonHerald.com


    Three people, including the leader of a border watch group and an officer within that group, were arrested in connection with a May 30 home invasion that left a father and his daughter dead and the mother wounded, authorities said.

    One of those arrested, Shawna Forde, is the leader of Minutemen American Defense, a group out of Washington state that conducts operations along the U.S.-Mexican border in Arizona. The group is not related to either the Minuteman Civil Defense Corps founded by Chris Simcox, or the Minuteman Project founded by Jim Gilchrist.

    Authorities also arrested Jason Eugene Bush, 34, who serves as operations director for the Washington group, and Albert Robert Gaxiola, 42, in connection with the shooting deaths of Raul Flores, 29, and his 9-year-old daughter, Brisenia Flores, said Pima County Sheriff Clarence Dupnik.

    hmmmmm...
    She was a 'former' member, pushed out because ostensibly she was 'unstable'. I think that might be a pre-requisite for what's happened, but hey, that's my opinion...... thanks...
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    Re: Minuteman leader arrested for double homicide

    As the finger pointing and defensive posturing begins--keep in mind a little girl is dead.

    She was the only innocent person in that house and she is dead.

    Maybe we could acknowledge the tragedy of a child's death long enough for the Left to lower its fingers and the Right to agree that maybe they could help keep any eye on a few folks... something good can come of this.

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    Re: Minuteman leader arrested for double homicide

    Quote Originally Posted by hazlnut View Post
    It sounds like Forde is on the outs with the group and had gone rogue.

    The Sahuarita Sun > Breaking News > Suspect in murders headed Minuteman group
    She formed her own group....... another Minuteman group....

    This is her organization: http://minutemenamericandefense.org
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    Re: Minuteman leader arrested for double homicide

    Quote Originally Posted by NDNdancer View Post
    MAD Home

    Shawna Forde, one of those arrested, is the Executive Director of MAD.

    From the AP:
    The Associated Press: Ariz. home invasion suspects tied to border group
    I thanked you because you undermined any leftist attempts to link this with the minuteman or play up the usual anyone who wants the border secured is a racist etc.

    .......


    Not a minuteman leader..so why does the headline say the person is?
    Because they know the majority of people only read headlines....and the reality of what is what in this has no real get up and go after you know it.

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