• This is a political forum that is non-biased/non-partisan and treats every person's position on topics equally. This debate forum is not aligned to any political party. In today's politics, many ideas are split between and even within all the political parties. Often we find ourselves agreeing on one platform but some topics break our mold. We are here to discuss them in a civil political debate. If this is your first visit to our political forums, be sure to check out the RULES. Registering for debate politics is necessary before posting. Register today to participate - it's free!

Riots erupt in Tehran over 'stolen' election

Apocalypse said:
Pfft...
The UK is far from receiving the crown on this one.
You're not even in the first page of this google search:
Iran blames - Google Search
Click to expand...

Oh that is heartbreaking
Even Israel beat us to the punch ... :(

What do we have to do for some attention around here, gosh lol
 
The MSM has largely ignored this story. In my opinion, the best coverage has been on blogs such as Huffington Post and AndrewSullivan.com.

Andrew Sullivan has pretty much devoted his blog to coverage of the Iranian protests. So, since I don't ever really look at the mainstream media sites ANYWAY, i thought EVERYONE was paying attention.
 
Catz Part Deux said:
The MSM has largely ignored this story. In my opinion, the best coverage has been on blogs such as Huffington Post and AndrewSullivan.com.

Andrew Sullivan has pretty much devoted his blog to coverage of the Iranian protests. So, since I don't ever really look at the mainstream media sites ANYWAY, i thought EVERYONE was paying attention.
Click to expand...

Fox seems to be carrying it more than anyone that I can tell. CNN and MSNBC have some stuff.
 
Personally, I'm shocked by the lack of media attentiveness to this issue in the U.S. To me, this is the biggest story of our time, equivalent to the Berlin Wall coming down in 1989.

I don't really understand why the MSM in America isn't on Iran 24-7.
 
It's because no one cares! Jon and Kate are making an annoucement Monday.
 
The Ayatollah has spoken. It's over, for now.
 
Catz Part Deux said:
Personally, I'm shocked by the lack of media attentiveness to this issue in the U.S. To me, this is the biggest story of our time, equivalent to the Berlin Wall coming down in 1989.

I don't really understand why the MSM in America isn't on Iran 24-7.
Click to expand...

All the American correspondents and crews were thrown out of Iran, so they have no direct way of gathering news. If the Ayatollah is overthrown, that will be the biggest story of our time, but it's not likely to happen.
 
Catz Part Deux said:
The MSM has largely ignored this story. In my opinion, the best coverage has been on blogs such as Huffington Post and AndrewSullivan.com.

Andrew Sullivan has pretty much devoted his blog to coverage of the Iranian protests. So, since I don't ever really look at the mainstream media sites ANYWAY, i thought EVERYONE was paying attention.
Click to expand...

Oddly, I tend to have the TV on MSNBC during the day, and I have seen a fair amount on this.
 
Catz Part Deux said:
Personally, I'm shocked by the lack of media attentiveness to this issue in the U.S. To me, this is the biggest story of our time, equivalent to the Berlin Wall coming down in 1989.

I don't really understand why the MSM in America isn't on Iran 24-7.
Click to expand...

Well today it seems there is a quite a bit of coverage going on. I just went hunting and it looks like many sources are headlining it again. Which is good.

It appears that CNN is really covering this thing on T.V. A random check of all the news channels only CNN had anything active on it. But then again, there is a lot of other things going on that are important to Americans. The big deal right now is the debate in Congress over the FY 2010 budget.
 
Laila said:
BBC NEWS | Middle East | Ayatollah demands end to protests

He said the election was a "political earthquake" for Iran's enemies - singling out Great Britain as "the most evil of them" - whom he accused of trying to foment unrest in the country.
Click to expand...

Your reply
Lol, what no US?
You know your popular when your country is blamed instead of US.

Most evil of them all :rofl
Click to expand...

A year or two ago we had a program about I think a comedy tv show in Iran - I think it might have originally been a comic - anyway it came from our time of meddling and how a saying had evolved that whenever anything was wrong it must be the British. The program was funny and showed the Iranians had the ability to take the mickey out of themselves but I wonder whether they are also going back to this kind of populist appeal - that if something is wrong, it must be the British who are responsible.;)
 
Redress said:
Oddly, I tend to have the TV on MSNBC during the day, and I have seen a fair amount on this.
Click to expand...

Yeah I think there is more than we really imagine. I have been slightly critical of the media not covering this as much as they should, but I might have been a bit premature.
 
Here's something from subscriber service that I have that tracks all daily activity in Congress and gives me alerts. I can't link it, sorry.

Support Iranians Who Embrace Democracy (H Res 560)


FLOOR SITUATION: The resolution is being considered under suspension of the rules; 40 minutes of debate; not subject to amendment; two-thirds majority vote required for adoption. The measure is expected to be managed by Chairman Berman, D-Calif. The Republican manager is expected to be Rep. Ros-Lehtinen, R-Fla.

BACKGROUND: The Foreign Affairs Committee did not act on the resolution, which was introduced yesterday by Reps. Howard L. Berman, D-Calif., and Mike Spence, R-Ind.

Iran has been in a state of turmoil for the past week as massive demonstrations protesting the re-election of incumbent Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad continue to roil the country. Iran's supreme leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei said Friday that the disputed presidential vote had not been rigged, warning protesters of a further, more violent, crackdown if they continue their demonstrations. Khamenei refused to stage a new recount or vote claiming the election was an "absolute victory." Instead, he accused a "Zionist-controlled" foreign media of manipulating public opinion.

President Obama has been criticized by some for not taking a more forceful stance in favor of the protestors, claiming that while he is "deeply troubled" by reports of violence against protestors, he is taking a "wait and see approach." Most experts on Iran, however, argue that given the history of U.S. interference in Iranian affairs, official condemnation by the United States runs the risk of helping Iranian hardliners. Iranian-American groups, almost all of which oppose the hardliners, have lobbied all week against congressional action on a resolution. "What the Congress is trying to do by coming down squarely on one side in the ongoing election dispute runs the risk of making the United States part of the story in Iran — which is exactly what Ahmadinejad was hoping for," Patrick Disney, legislative director of the National Iranian American Council said late Thursday night. "It would play right into the hardliners' hand, letting them point the finger at a supposed external threat rather than their own mismanagement of the country's affairs."

SUMMARY: This resolution expresses support for all Iranian citizens who embrace the values of freedom, human rights, civil liberties, and the rule of law.

It states that the House condemns the ongoing violence against demonstrators by the Iranian government and pro-government militias, as well as the ongoing government suppression of independent electronic communication through interference with the Internet and cellphones.

Finally, the measure affirms the universality of individual rights and the importance of democratic and fair elections.

AMENDMENTS: None permitted.

COMMENTARY: The administration does not normally take positions on such resolutions.
Click to expand...
 
Here is the actual text of the bill.

111th CONGRESS

1st Session

H. RES. 560

Expressing support for all Iranian citizens who embrace the values of freedom, human rights, civil liberties, and rule of law, and for other purposes.

IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES

JUNE 18, 2009

Mr. BERMAN (for himself and Mr. PENCE) submitted the following resolution; which was referred to the Committee on Foreign Affairs


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

RESOLUTION

Expressing support for all Iranian citizens who embrace the values of freedom, human rights, civil liberties, and rule of law, and for other purposes.

Resolved, That the House of Representatives—

(1) expresses its support for all Iranian citizens who embrace the values of freedom, human rights, civil liberties, and rule of law;

(2) condemns the ongoing violence against demonstrators by the Government of Iran and pro-government militias, as well as the ongoing government suppression of independent electronic communication through interference with the Internet and cellphones; and

(3) affirms the universality of individual rights and the importance of democratic and fair elections.
Click to expand...
 
I love the "Supreme Leader" saying there is no evidence of fraud. Apparently, in Iran they are able to count 40 million votes by hand in two hours. Meanwhile, it takes us far longer than that to do it via computer.
 
stekim said:
I love the "Supreme Leader" saying there is no evidence of fraud. Apparently, in Iran they are able to count 40 million votes by hand in two hours. Meanwhile, it takes us far longer than that to do it via computer.
Click to expand...

Not to mention the 95%+ voter turnout in over 200 districts which is simply statistically impossible.
 
Agent Ferris said:
Not to mention the 95%+ voter turnout in over 200 districts which is simply statistically impossible.
Click to expand...

we had even some 120%+ turnouts. mostly with 110%+ voting for ahmadinejad!!
 
The crackdown begins.

Iran Riot Police Clash With Thousands of Protesters in Bloody Tehran Crackdown - Iran | Map | News - FOXNews.com

TEHRAN — Witnesses said police beat protesters and fired tear gas and water cannons at thousands who rallied in Tehran Saturday in open defiance of Iran's clerical government, sharply escalating the most serious internal conflict since the 1979 Islamic Revolution.

The eyewitnesses described fierce clashes near Revolution Square in central Tehran after some 3,000 protesters chanted "Death to the dictator!" and "Death to dictatorship!" Police responded with tear gas and water cannons.

The witnesses told The Associated Press that between 50 and 60 protesters were seriously beaten by police and pro-government militia and taken to Imam Khomeini hospital in central Tehran. People could be seen dragging away comrades bloodied by baton strikes.

Helicopters hovered over central Tehran. Ambulance sirens echoed through the streets and black smoke rose over the city.

Tehran University was cordoned off by police and militia while students inside the university chanted "death to the dictator," witnesses said.

English-language state TV said a blast at the Tehran shrine of Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini had killed one persona and wounded two but the report could not be independently confirmed due to government restrictions on independent reporting.
Click to expand...
 
It's strange. I almost feel a slight sense of country jealousy. I wish this many people cared when people where being bloodied and trampled at our RNC and DNC.
 
dirtpoorchris said:
It's strange. I almost feel a slight sense of country jealousy. I wish this many people cared when people where being bloodied and trampled at our RNC and DNC.
Click to expand...

Do you honestly think that is even close to being the same thing?
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top Bottom