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Not because we didn't want their support. Because they were unsure about their ability to maintain a war against England due to their economic issues. We sent Benjamin Franklin to France in 1776 seeking their direct support.We did it on our own, with the population split almost 50/50 pro and con against the revolution, for 3 years. Wait. Watch. Give them a chance. Perhaps they can do this without firing a single bullet.
I disagree, not if they ask us for it.Legitimate according to whom? If we get in the middle of this, we will strip their victory of legitimacy.
These riots are not the Velvet Revolution. Riots are not peaceful. Peaceful protests are peaceful. Burning cars, throwing stones, throwing molotov cocktails, beating policemen...these are riots and they are not peaceful.THIS IS THEIR FIGHT. We have to let them fight it. Hopefully, by peaceful means.
And that is what I'm suggesting. We need to be willing and ready to arm them to fight for their country when it escalates to that point. And you don't know that they are not asking us. We have had covert connections in Iran for some time. We don't know what they are asking for. Twitter and Youtube do not constitute the entirety of the communications coming from within Iran. I assure you that if they are asking for material support this will not be advertised by the opposition on the internet. It will be done covertly through the intelligence community.If, at some point, the leaders of this peaceful velvet revolution ask for help, I think we should be standing ready. BUT THEY AREN'T ASKING FOR OUR HELP RIGHT NOW.
I don't know if I can be more clear on this, but the U.S. can't assist these people against their will. When I say we need to send them weapons, obviously there needs to be a desire to receive them. I think some people are being deliberately argumentative and simply taking the most literal interpretation of my words in order to criticize my position on this matter. "Well you didn't say 'if they want them' you just said we need to arm them, and you weren't specific so your idea is bad." Logically it stands to reason that there would be a receptive party on the other end of our offer of material support.
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