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    Re: Riots erupt in Tehran over 'stolen' election

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    It takes a bit more than just will. It takes leadership and weapons as well, to name just a couple.
    Leadership yes. Weapons...not so much.

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    Iran 2009???? One can only hope.

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    Re: Riots erupt in Tehran over 'stolen' election

    A wait and see attitude or passivism helps no one even the one who promotes it from the outside, like Obama has done for the most part so far. Where would the U.S.A. be if France had not helped us in the American Revolutionary War?
    Guns might help in Iran but a few well chosen words of encouragement to the protesters without the fear of upsetting the Ayatollah might help more. We have nothing to fear from Iran except fear it's self and then only in the eyes of Obama. Militarily Iran is no better than Iraq was.
    The people on Iran didn't like the Shah but they have learned to hate some of the currant leaders as much.

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    Something I made to support the Iranian peoples fight against Tyranny.




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    Re: Riots erupt in Tehran over 'stolen' election

    I wonder how the Iranian's felt when it was our government flogging American protesters in the street, knocking them senseless with high-pressure water hoses and police batons and killing our college kids at Kent State?

    In the annals of history, that really wasn't that long ago.

    Something tells me they really didn't lose a lot of sleep over that.

    Call me jaded.

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    Re: Riots erupt in Tehran over 'stolen' election

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain America View Post
    I wonder how the Iranian's felt when it was our government flogging American protesters in the street, knocking them senseless with high-pressure water hoses and police batons and killing our college kids at Kent State?

    In the annals of history, that really wasn't that long ago.

    Something tells me they really didn't lose a lot of sleep over that.

    Call me jaded.
    Kent state and racial oppression by U.S. police was decades ago, literally. I would imagine there are very few among the opposition that were alive during that time. The majority of the country wasn't even alive back then if I read some statistics right the other day. And those that are old enough to have remembered it probably didn't even know about it when it was occurring. Mass communication is much different now than it was back in 1970.
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    Re: Riots erupt in Tehran over 'stolen' election

    We have such short memories. Does anyone remember the "Battle in Seattle" over NAFTA, GATT-TRIPS. Hundreds arrested, tear gas, riot batons...... Or Bush's Innauguration, both times? There were huge protests, but little violence.

    Anyway, back to Iran. There are riots outside of Parliament right now. The death of Neda has seemed to galvanize the Iranian women and there is a revitalization of the protest. They're still insisting on a new election, not a recount. It's gaining momentum again because of the women.

    There's an old Tsitsisis saying (Cheyenne): A Nation can only be defeated when the hearts of it's women are lying on the ground.
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    Re: Riots erupt in Tehran over 'stolen' election

    Quote Originally Posted by NDNdancer View Post
    We have such short memories. Does anyone remember the "Battle in Seattle" over NAFTA, GATT-TRIPS. Hundreds arrested, tear gas, riot batons...... Or Bush's Innauguration, both times? There were huge protests, but little violence.

    Anyway, back to Iran. There are riots outside of Parliament right now. The death of Neda has seemed to galvanize the Iranian women and there is a revitalization of the protest. They're still insisting on a new election, not a recount. It's gaining momentum again because of the women.

    There's an old Tsitsisis saying (Cheyenne): A Nation can only be defeated when the hearts of it's women are lying on the ground.
    I'm telling you this, the woman's rights movement within moderate and modernist Islam is a very, very powerful platform. It's a very strong rallying cry right now.
    *insert profound statement here*

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    Re: Riots erupt in Tehran over 'stolen' election

    Quote Originally Posted by NDNdancer View Post
    We have such short memories. Does anyone remember the "Battle in Seattle" over NAFTA, GATT-TRIPS. Hundreds arrested, tear gas, riot batons...... Or Bush's Innauguration, both times? There were huge protests, but little violence.
    A) It was a planned black block riot from the get go.

    B) How many deaths?

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