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    Re: Riots erupt in Tehran over 'stolen' election

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    The MSM has largely ignored this story. In my opinion, the best coverage has been on blogs such as Huffington Post and AndrewSullivan.com.

    Andrew Sullivan has pretty much devoted his blog to coverage of the Iranian protests. So, since I don't ever really look at the mainstream media sites ANYWAY, i thought EVERYONE was paying attention.
    Oddly, I tend to have the TV on MSNBC during the day, and I have seen a fair amount on this.

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    Re: Riots erupt in Tehran over 'stolen' election

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    Personally, I'm shocked by the lack of media attentiveness to this issue in the U.S. To me, this is the biggest story of our time, equivalent to the Berlin Wall coming down in 1989.

    I don't really understand why the MSM in America isn't on Iran 24-7.
    Well today it seems there is a quite a bit of coverage going on. I just went hunting and it looks like many sources are headlining it again. Which is good.

    It appears that CNN is really covering this thing on T.V. A random check of all the news channels only CNN had anything active on it. But then again, there is a lot of other things going on that are important to Americans. The big deal right now is the debate in Congress over the FY 2010 budget.
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    Re: Riots erupt in Tehran over 'stolen' election

    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post
    BBC NEWS | Middle East | Ayatollah demands end to protests

    He said the election was a "political earthquake" for Iran's enemies - singling out Great Britain as "the most evil of them" - whom he accused of trying to foment unrest in the country.
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    Lol, what no US?
    You know your popular when your country is blamed instead of US.

    Most evil of them all
    A year or two ago we had a program about I think a comedy tv show in Iran - I think it might have originally been a comic - anyway it came from our time of meddling and how a saying had evolved that whenever anything was wrong it must be the British. The program was funny and showed the Iranians had the ability to take the mickey out of themselves but I wonder whether they are also going back to this kind of populist appeal - that if something is wrong, it must be the British who are responsible.

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    Re: Riots erupt in Tehran over 'stolen' election

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    Now, that's a couple that I wish someone would take a baseball bat to.
    Now THAT I would watch.
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    Re: Riots erupt in Tehran over 'stolen' election

    Quote Originally Posted by stekim View Post
    Now THAT I would watch.
    Watch? Hell, I'd pay per view it.

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    Re: Riots erupt in Tehran over 'stolen' election

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Oddly, I tend to have the TV on MSNBC during the day, and I have seen a fair amount on this.
    Yeah I think there is more than we really imagine. I have been slightly critical of the media not covering this as much as they should, but I might have been a bit premature.
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    Re: Riots erupt in Tehran over 'stolen' election

    Here's something from subscriber service that I have that tracks all daily activity in Congress and gives me alerts. I can't link it, sorry.

    Support Iranians Who Embrace Democracy (H Res 560)


    FLOOR SITUATION: The resolution is being considered under suspension of the rules; 40 minutes of debate; not subject to amendment; two-thirds majority vote required for adoption. The measure is expected to be managed by Chairman Berman, D-Calif. The Republican manager is expected to be Rep. Ros-Lehtinen, R-Fla.

    BACKGROUND: The Foreign Affairs Committee did not act on the resolution, which was introduced yesterday by Reps. Howard L. Berman, D-Calif., and Mike Spence, R-Ind.

    Iran has been in a state of turmoil for the past week as massive demonstrations protesting the re-election of incumbent Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad continue to roil the country. Iran's supreme leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei said Friday that the disputed presidential vote had not been rigged, warning protesters of a further, more violent, crackdown if they continue their demonstrations. Khamenei refused to stage a new recount or vote claiming the election was an "absolute victory." Instead, he accused a "Zionist-controlled" foreign media of manipulating public opinion.

    President Obama has been criticized by some for not taking a more forceful stance in favor of the protestors, claiming that while he is "deeply troubled" by reports of violence against protestors, he is taking a "wait and see approach." Most experts on Iran, however, argue that given the history of U.S. interference in Iranian affairs, official condemnation by the United States runs the risk of helping Iranian hardliners. Iranian-American groups, almost all of which oppose the hardliners, have lobbied all week against congressional action on a resolution. "What the Congress is trying to do by coming down squarely on one side in the ongoing election dispute runs the risk of making the United States part of the story in Iran — which is exactly what Ahmadinejad was hoping for," Patrick Disney, legislative director of the National Iranian American Council said late Thursday night. "It would play right into the hardliners' hand, letting them point the finger at a supposed external threat rather than their own mismanagement of the country's affairs."

    SUMMARY:
    This resolution expresses support for all Iranian citizens who embrace the values of freedom, human rights, civil liberties, and the rule of law.

    It states that the House condemns the ongoing violence against demonstrators by the Iranian government and pro-government militias, as well as the ongoing government suppression of independent electronic communication through interference with the Internet and cellphones.

    Finally, the measure affirms the universality of individual rights and the importance of democratic and fair elections.

    AMENDMENTS: None permitted.

    COMMENTARY: The administration does not normally take positions on such resolutions.
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    Re: Riots erupt in Tehran over 'stolen' election

    Here is the actual text of the bill.

    111th CONGRESS

    1st Session

    H. RES. 560

    Expressing support for all Iranian citizens who embrace the values of freedom, human rights, civil liberties, and rule of law, and for other purposes.

    IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES

    JUNE 18, 2009

    Mr. BERMAN (for himself and Mr. PENCE) submitted the following resolution; which was referred to the Committee on Foreign Affairs


    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    RESOLUTION

    Expressing support for all Iranian citizens who embrace the values of freedom, human rights, civil liberties, and rule of law, and for other purposes.

    Resolved, That the House of Representatives—

    (1) expresses its support for all Iranian citizens who embrace the values of freedom, human rights, civil liberties, and rule of law;

    (2) condemns the ongoing violence against demonstrators by the Government of Iran and pro-government militias, as well as the ongoing government suppression of independent electronic communication through interference with the Internet and cellphones; and

    (3) affirms the universality of individual rights and the importance of democratic and fair elections.
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    Re: Riots erupt in Tehran over 'stolen' election

    I love the "Supreme Leader" saying there is no evidence of fraud. Apparently, in Iran they are able to count 40 million votes by hand in two hours. Meanwhile, it takes us far longer than that to do it via computer.
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    Re: Riots erupt in Tehran over 'stolen' election

    Quote Originally Posted by stekim View Post
    I love the "Supreme Leader" saying there is no evidence of fraud. Apparently, in Iran they are able to count 40 million votes by hand in two hours. Meanwhile, it takes us far longer than that to do it via computer.
    Not to mention the 95%+ voter turnout in over 200 districts which is simply statistically impossible.

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