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    Re: Riots erupt in Tehran over 'stolen' election

    Hi,
    I’m Josh Shahryar AKA NiteOwl and I’ve been immersed in tweets from Iran for the past several hours. I have tried to be extremely careful in choosing my tweet sources and have tried maximally to avoid listening to media banter. What I have compiled below is what I can confirm through my tweets to have happened in the past day and in the past week in Iran. Remember, this is all from tweets. There is NOTHING included here that is not from a reliable tweet. No news media outlets have been used in the compilation of this short brief as I would like to call it.


    These are some of the happenings that I can positively confirm:


    1. During the last protest in Tehran, several policemen have been spotted by protesters who were wearing green bands which is the color of the revolution. The policemen have told them candidly that they support them.


    2. During the protests, on several occasions, Baseejis who have attacked peaceful protesters have been arrested on the spot by the police. This seems to have occured in several spots, yet it hasn’t been a crackdown of sorts. A few cases only!

    3. Several Baseeji militiamen have been spotted laying down their arms and going home after being asked to interfere with the protesters.


    4. By far the biggest threat people are facing right now are plainclothesmen. They seem to be everywhere and are targetting people who are not in groups. These men have been mostly linked with Ansar e Hezbollah. They are responsible for beating people up, arresting people, threatening protesters, arresting reformists from their homes and such.


    5. So far, it has been confirmed that 15 people in Tehran and 32 people around the country have been killed. Hundreds more have been injured and in excess of 800 people have been detained. Among these there are dozens of reformists. Most of these arrests have been made by the notorious plainclothesmen mentioned above.


    6. During yesterday’s protests, mullahs have been spotted joining rallies within Tehran and in several other cities. No one could confirm what the status of these Mullahs was or is within the clerical society, but their numbers have been very visible this time.


    7. Protests have occured not just in Tehran yesterday, but in Ahvaz, Mashhad, Kermanshah, Qazvin, Shiraz, Tabriz and EVER Qom.


    8. Pro-Ahmadinejad protesters’ numbers have been greatly exaggerated by the state media in comparison to Mousavi’s supporters’ numbers. In reality, Pro-Ahmadinejad protesters were only a pocket full of people. Most of these people have been identified by other protesters as either people who work at government offices or people who were brought from the countryside.


    9. After downplaying the protests for days, the state-run media has finally started to announce news of the events a little more accurately.


    10. Text Messaging is still down in Iran and internet is extremely slow. People are unable to get sattelite channels on their televisions. At the same time, police and plainclothesmen are going door to door and taking away people’s sattelite dish antenas.


    11. Mohsen Rezayee, one of the candidates, is going to declare his support for a reelection tomorrow. The fourth candidate, Mahdi Karoubi openly joined yesterday’s rally.


    12. A group of prominent officials within the Ministry of Interior have written a letter to the Guardian Council declaring that they have witnessed widespread irregularities within the voting and counting processes during the election. They have asked this matter to be investigated fully.


    13. As of today, not a single report of the military’s intervention into the peaceful protests has been established. Not a single one.


    14. Khatami and Mousavi have both asked the Ministry of Justice to investigate the involvement of the plainclothesmen in the violence that has been sparked during the protests.


    15. Several eye-witnesses have seen non-Iranian Arabs waving Hamas/Hezbollah flags around the protests. These reports have been fully confirmed and are NOT a rumor spread by Israel.


    16. Finally, the big news. It seems that the Green Revolution has garnered the support of Hashemi Rafsanjani, Nateq Noori, Tabatabayee and other prominent clerics and politicians. The Rohaniyone Mubarez organization that which has in its ranks pretty much most of the clerics except for the ones in power and includes Mr. Rafsanjani and Mr. Noori has declared their support for the annullment of the election and holding of new elections. Ayatollah Montazeri has yet to declare clear support.


    Finally a few words to those who are reading this:


    People Outside Iran: This is as clear and concise as I can be. I have not included ANYTHING that I have sensed to be remotely fishy, but human error will always manifests itself in even the most flawless of non-mathematical things. However, this includes nothing from the Western media, including the BBC which I have been generously using to inform people and I laud them for their courageous journalism.
    People Inside Iran: Don’t believe a WORD of what I am telling you. Do what you think is best, keeping everything in mind. I know LITTLE of what you know so make your decisions based on your OWN judgment.
    People Who Want to Send Me Tweet Links: You don’t need to find me, I will find you. Don’t hassle yourself. Your voice will be heard through millions of others like me.


    People Who Want to Hunt Me Down: I’m an Afghan. If you ever tried to attack me, you’ll see my back only after your back has met the ground.
    P.S. Please post this around. I will be writing one brief of this kind everyday until this ends.
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    Re: Riots erupt in Tehran over 'stolen' election

    Quote Originally Posted by Khayembii Communique View Post



    8. Pro-Ahmadinejad protesters’ numbers have been greatly exaggerated by the state media in comparison to Mousavi’s supporters’ numbers. In reality, Pro-Ahmadinejad protesters were only a pocket full of people. Most of these people have been identified by other protesters as either people who work at government offices or people who were brought from the countryside.


    9. After downplaying the protests for days, the state-run media has finally started to announce news of the events a little more accurately.
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    Related to these points, I was shown this picture of a pro-Ahmadinejad protest. Someone went Photoshop with it it seems. Hope it hasn't been posted already, I only looked back a few pages.

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    Re: Riots erupt in Tehran over 'stolen' election

    Quote Originally Posted by 7thKeeper View Post
    Related to these points, I was shown this picture of a pro-Ahmadinejad protest. Someone went Photoshop with it it seems. Hope it hasn't been posted already, I only looked back a few pages.

    Why can't we seem to get that many American flags at any of our rallies?
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    Re: Riots erupt in Tehran over 'stolen' election

    Here seems to be the original picture, so you can compare.

    ...we honor leaders for what they achieve, but we often prefer to close our eyes to the way they achieve it...

    In the real world, politics is compromise and democracy is politics. Anyone who would be a statesman has to be a successful politician first. Also, a leader has to deal with people and nations as they are, not as they should be. As a result, the qualities required for leadership are not necessary those that we would want our children to emulate - unless we wanted them to be leaders.

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    Re: Riots erupt in Tehran over 'stolen' election

    Any new word? This thread was on page two, where's the info?

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    Re: Riots erupt in Tehran over 'stolen' election

    Friday, June 19th (Khordat 29th), Iran Local Time UTC/GMT +4:30 hours:

    1:55am NEW! Tehran Bureau – Reports from Iran: Many Sepah (secret service) commanders arrested.

    1:55am NEW! Reuters – Mousavi asks the world to participate in sea of green in all capital cities this Sunday.

    1:51am NEW! Reuters – Iran’s top legislative body has decided to invite the three defeated candidates in last week’s disputed presidential election to a meeting on Saturday to discuss their complaints, its spokesman said on Thursday.

    Thursday, June 18th (Khordat 28th), Iran Local Time UTC/GMT +4:30 hours:

    8:38pm Tehran Bureau – Hezbollah members spotted in Kurdistan region.

    8:28pm Picture – Doctored photo found of Ahmadinejad rally.

    From our site.

    Tomorrow's call to prayer is going to be very important. Today there was basically more of the same; millions-strong demonstrations with violence by the Basiji and other thugs. The number of deaths is reported to be in the hundreds. We also have a bunch of reports from on the ground and a few other things up on the main page.
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    Re: Riots erupt in Tehran over 'stolen' election

    Is it just me or is the U.S. media letting this thing slide off the radar? I'm not seeing or hearing much right now. The Ensign affair is more popular than the situation in Iran on Fox News. WTF???

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    Re: Riots erupt in Tehran over 'stolen' election

    Quote Originally Posted by Lerxst View Post
    Is it just me or is the U.S. media letting this thing slide off the radar? I'm not seeing or hearing much right now. The Ensign affair is more popular than the situation in Iran on Fox News. WTF???

    This is truely pathetic.
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    Re: Riots erupt in Tehran over 'stolen' election

    Quote Originally Posted by Lerxst View Post
    Is it just me or is the U.S. media letting this thing slide off the radar? I'm not seeing or hearing much right now. The Ensign affair is more popular than the situation in Iran on Fox News. WTF???

    Nope it not just you.

    As the administrations stance of talks first protests second has become clearer. The US media has changed tone to fit it.
    FOX is covering it and questioning Obama's lack of resolve over it.
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    Re: Riots erupt in Tehran over 'stolen' election

    BBC NEWS | Middle East | Iran's Ayatollah to break silence

    Iran's supreme leader is to address the nation for the first time since disputed election results sparked huge protests in the capital, Tehran.

    Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, who backs the re-election of President Ahmadinejad, is due to speak at Friday prayers.

    The authorities have been laying on bus services and urging people to come to hear Mr Khamenei speak.


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