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    Re: Riots erupt in Tehran over 'stolen' election

    Quote Originally Posted by Khayembii Communique View Post
    If the dictatorship collapses, then Mousavi, Rafsanjani and Khatami will collapse with it.
    Possibly. Or perhaps they could play an important role in the reform movement, just as Alexander Dubcek did in Czechoslovakia.
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    Re: Riots erupt in Tehran over 'stolen' election

    Possibly. Or perhaps they could play an important role in the reform movement, just as Alexander Dubcek did in Czechoslovakia.
    They are too closely tied in with the current Iranian regime; they will not break off and call for its destruction.
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    Re: Riots erupt in Tehran over 'stolen' election

    Quote Originally Posted by Khayembii Communique View Post
    They are too closely tied in with the current Iranian regime; they will not break off and call for its destruction.
    They don't need to call for its destruction. The people of Iran will see to that, or not. The reformers can play a valuable role though. Mousavi is the face of the reform movement. Rafsanjani can make a credible threat to depose Khamenei. Khatami, as a popular ex-president, lends the movement gravitas.

    Then after Khamenei is gone, they could play a role in democratizing Iran and improving relations with the West.
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    Re: Riots erupt in Tehran over 'stolen' election

    If this goes past the 1999/2003 occurances to actual revolt then the "protestors" will be slaughtered and the "world" will do nothing.

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    Re: Riots erupt in Tehran over 'stolen' election

    Quote Originally Posted by Lerxst View Post
    Yes, but Iranians are still predominantly religious people, and they do not suffer a true separation of church and state like we do. Whoever their pick is will be a Muslim first and foremost, and in Islam religion and politics are tied at the hip.
    That we don't know for sure. When I was in Iran in 1987, I met more secular people than religious. I can't really tell because I never lived there, but that's the impression I got and that's what my Iranian friends tell me.
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    Re: Riots erupt in Tehran over 'stolen' election

    Quote Originally Posted by Triad View Post
    If this goes past the 1999/2003 occurances to actual revolt then the "protestors" will be slaughtered and the "world" will do nothing.
    What are the "world's" options?

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    Re: Riots erupt in Tehran over 'stolen' election

    Supporting them .

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    Re: Riots erupt in Tehran over 'stolen' election

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    Supporting them .
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    Re: Riots erupt in Tehran over 'stolen' election

    Quote Originally Posted by talloulou View Post
    There's better coverage of the riots on youtube than cable.

    YouTube - Riot police caught by crowd - Protests in Tehran after election
    Did I see that right? They knocked that police guy off his bike and stuff, and then escorted him to a spot where they could treat his wounds?

    Thats very noble of them.
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    Re: Riots erupt in Tehran over 'stolen' election

    Did I see that right? They knocked that police guy off his bike and stuff, and then escorted him to a spot where they could treat his wounds?
    Here's another:


    Supporters of Mir Hossein Mousavi try to calm down fellow demonstrators as they rescue a bloodied riot policeman (center) who was beaten during a protest in Valiasr Street in Tehran on June 13, 2009. (BEHROUZ MEHRI/AFP/Getty Images)


    A backer of Mir Hossein Mousavi helps evacuate an injured riot-police officer during riots in Tehran on June 13, 2009. (OLIVIER LABAN-MATTEI/AFP/Getty Images)

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