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    Re: Riots erupt in Tehran over 'stolen' election

    Quote Originally Posted by Apocalypse View Post
    I doubt those riots will lead to a revolution or anything.
    The people of Iran will get tired from this in a few days,
    and then life under the dictatorship will go back to normal.
    These are unarmed civilians. There is a limit to what they can do!!

    The situation seems to be continuing to become more volatile.

    The students are apparently doing a sit in while armed guards are gathering outside.

    People are going to the rally despite being warned that live ammunition may be used and apparently Ahmadinejad's supporters are also on the way there with sticks.

    Our Foreign Secretary, David Milliband says the problem is around how the votes have been counted and I heard nothing about an investigation.

    I found this link to a lot of videos. If you go further down you will find a lot of links to twitter sites of Iranians.

    Iran after the Election - pictures from inside Iran

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    Re: Riots erupt in Tehran over 'stolen' election

    Quote Originally Posted by Tashah View Post
    Source: guardian.co.uk

    The scale of the fraud committed here is simply astounding.


    Is there any actual evidence that voter fraud has happened or might have happened like voter registration fraud, videos of the same people voting in multiple polling locations,electronic voting machines that leave no paper trial,dumped ballots and etc? Or are these people just pissed that their guy lost so they are rioting with the hope that their government will be intimidated into seating the candidate the rioters want? I ask these questions because the only thing the article mentions is a bunch of people who are pissed off because their guy lost and the claims of a political analyst, which doesn't equal evidence of any fraud.
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    Re: Riots erupt in Tehran over 'stolen' election

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    Is there any actual evidence that voter fraud has happened or might have happened like voter registration fraud, videos of the same people voting in multiple polling locations,electronic voting machines that leave no paper trial,dumped ballots and etc? Or are these people just pissed that their guy lost so they are rioting with the hope that their government will be intimidated into seating the candidate the rioters want? I ask these questions because the only thing the article mentions is a bunch of people who are pissed off because their guy lost and the claims of a political analyst, which doesn't equal evidence of any fraud.
    Well Khamenei has called for an investigation now. So either it'll be a whitewash, or they see something real that the opposition can prove.
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    Re: Riots erupt in Tehran over 'stolen' election

    Despite a ban from Iran's Interior Ministry, pro-Mousavi protestors demonstrated in Tehran today. Reuters reported:

    Tens of thousands of supporters of Iran's defeated presidential candidate Mirhossein Mousavi gathered in downtown Tehran on Monday, defying an Interior Ministry ban.

    Shouting "Allahu Akbar" (God is great), they converged on Revolution Square, where the moderate former prime minister was expected to call for calm after two days of violent unrest in the capital since hardline President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad was declared the victor in Friday's vote.

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    Re: Riots erupt in Tehran over 'stolen' election

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Well Khamenei has called for an investigation now. So either it'll be a whitewash, or they see something real that the opposition can prove.
    He has called for calm, so an "investigation" can be held. When that "investigation" discovers no wrongdoing, the results will quietly be announced to a now-calm electorate. Iran has learned much about how to rig an election in a democracy, they must be watching the US.

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    Re: Riots erupt in Tehran over 'stolen' election

    Quote Originally Posted by WillRockwell View Post
    He has called for calm, so an "investigation" can be held. When that "investigation" discovers no wrongdoing, the results will quietly be announced to a now-calm electorate. Iran has learned much about how to rig an election in a democracy, they must be watching the US.
    Are you for real?
    The Iranians know how to rig an election?
    The results were simply the opposite from what was shown in the polls, how is that so professional?
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    Re: Riots erupt in Tehran over 'stolen' election

    Tehran looks like Los Angeles after a Rodney King verdict....except the citizens of Tehran may actually have cause.

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    Re: Riots erupt in Tehran over 'stolen' election

    Interesting video clip...Iran is a nation of bloggers:

    [ame=http://vimeo.com/2139754]IRAN: A Nation Of Bloggers on Vimeo[/ame]

    Having a blog or being on the internet, in and of itself, is a political statement in Iran.

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    Re: Riots erupt in Tehran over 'stolen' election

    Quote Originally Posted by Apocalypse View Post
    Are you for real?
    The Iranians know how to rig an election?
    The results were simply the opposite from what was shown in the polls, how is that so professional?
    It doesn't have to be professional if it is effective. Once the election is stolen, no amount of evidence will prevent the cheated candidate from appearing as a sore loser. Consider the 2004 presidential election:

    In the crucial state of Ohio, we see Kerry with a steady lead all day. When the polls close, all eyes are on Ohio, and the unauthorized numbers on the internet have Kerry ahead by 2 points. Then CNN posts exit poll data showing Kerry up by a good 4 points. Somehow, Bush pulls off a mysterious 6 point gain and wins by 2 points.

    Meanwhile, down in Florida, 1.6 million more people were voting for President than had done so in 2000, the year that Bush and Gore essentially tied. Exit polls showed more new voters were going for Kerry, as predicted, and far fewer voting for Nader this time. Not surprisingly, Kerry was slightly ahead all day and ended with a 2 point lead. But of course, Bush won. And not by one or two points, as he did in Ohio and New Mexico. In Florida, where vote-tallying machines have been seen counting backwards, Bush gained a full 7 points on his exit polls and beat Kerry by 5 points.
    Exit Polls and Voter Fraud: A User-Friendly Explanation

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    Re: Riots erupt in Tehran over 'stolen' election

    Stop tainting this thread with your off-topic, supercilious commentary. This is a thread about Iran, whose people are in the streets right now, chanting: "I will fight, I will die, I will get my vote back."

    This is about people being beaten by riot police and being denied access to medical care. This is about people fighting and dying to get rights that you take for granted.

    More news coverage from the Guardian, UK : Iran's disputed elections: the aftermath | News | guardian.co.uk

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