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    Re: Riots erupt in Tehran over 'stolen' election

    it's not like the tianmen. it's all over the country now.

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    Re: Riots erupt in Tehran over 'stolen' election

    Tiananmen was all over the country there where smaller demonstrations across China.

    There wasn't the mass shootings as in the square itself..but alot of arrests and the like.
    They then wiped it from history.
    Gotta love the Commies.
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    Re: Riots erupt in Tehran over 'stolen' election

    Quote Originally Posted by youknowwho View Post
    it's not like the tianmen. it's all over the country now.
    My point was simply, I do not want to see people killed if it cannot achieve anything, but Triad was right there were protest in many areas of China.

    Our reporters were saying yesterday it was really building momentum. Where do you see it going?
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    Re: Riots erupt in Tehran over 'stolen' election

    Quote Originally Posted by youknowwho View Post
    it's not like the tianmen. it's all over the country now.
    The Iranian Tienanmen happened in 1999.
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    Re: Riots erupt in Tehran over 'stolen' election

    I have been thinking "FRAUD" since the results were announced. However, this article in today's Washington Post made me question it. I'm not saying there's no fraud, but this article has given me pause.

    The Iranian People Speak

    By Ken Ballen and Patrick Doherty
    Monday, June 15, 2009

    The election results in Iran may reflect the will of the Iranian people. Many experts are claiming that the margin of victory of incumbent President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad was the result of fraud or manipulation, but our nationwide public opinion survey of Iranians three weeks before the vote showed Ahmadinejad leading by a more than 2 to 1 margin -- greater than his actual apparent margin of victory in Friday's election.

    While Western news reports from Tehran in the days leading up to the voting portrayed an Iranian public enthusiastic about Ahmadinejad's principal opponent, Mir Hossein Mousavi, our scientific sampling from across all 30 of Iran's provinces showed Ahmadinejad well ahead.

    Ken Ballen and Patrick Doherty - Polling in Iran Shows Real Support for Ahmadinejad

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    Re: Riots erupt in Tehran over 'stolen' election

    Quote Originally Posted by aps View Post
    I have been thinking "FRAUD" since the results were announced. However, this article in today's Washington Post made me question it. I'm not saying there's no fraud, but this article has given me pause.
    The thought had crossed my mind that this could be possible. However according to the Telegraph

    In the run-up to the campaign, polls had put both men neck-and-neck, with some suggesting that Mr Ahmadinejad was in for a shock defeat because of his poor economic performance and aggression to the West.
    Iran elections: revolt as crowds protest at Mahmoud Ahmadinejad's 'rigged' victory - Telegraph

    Obviously the poll you presented said something quite different but that is not unusual with polls.

    I know early Saturday morning the thing that made people sure it was rigged was because of the size of his majority. This, it seems to Mousavi's supporters, was totally unexpected.

    Even the report you presented said that the people were wanting Changes like Mousavi was promising. It would seem a strange choice if that is so....but of course it is always possible.
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    Re: Riots erupt in Tehran over 'stolen' election

    Quote Originally Posted by alexa View Post
    The thought had crossed my mind that this could be possible. However according to the Telegraph



    Iran elections: revolt as crowds protest at Mahmoud Ahmadinejad's 'rigged' victory - Telegraph

    Obviously the poll you presented said something quite different but that is not unusual with polls.

    I know early Saturday morning the thing that made people sure it was rigged was because of the size of his majority. This, it seems to Mousavi's supporters, was totally unexpected.

    Even the report you presented said that the people were wanting Changes like Mousavi was promising. It would seem a strange choice if that is so....but of course it is always possible.
    I agree with you. It looks like an investigation will occur. It will be interesting to see what happens with this.

    In about-face, Khamenei backs vote fraud probe

    Ayatollah Ali Khamenei ordered the powerful Guardian Council to examine the allegations by pro-reform candidate Mir Hossein Mousavi, who has claimed widespread vote rigging in Friday's election. The government declared President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad the winner in a landslide victory.

    It was a stunning turnaround for Iran's most powerful figure, who previously welcomed the results.

    Fraud probe ordered into Iran vote - Iran- msnbc.com

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    Re: Riots erupt in Tehran over 'stolen' election

    Quote Originally Posted by aps View Post
    I agree with you. It looks like an investigation will occur. It will be interesting to see what happens with this.
    That is interesting. From your link it appears they are doing the carrot and stick.

    This is the carrot. Arrests, making communication difficult and forbidding rallys calling them sedition are the sticks.

    I guess a lot will depend on whether the people believe the investigation is reliable or a whitewash.

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    Re: Riots erupt in Tehran over 'stolen' election

    Keep those riots going in Iran, the more the merrier.
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    Re: Riots erupt in Tehran over 'stolen' election

    I doubt those riots will lead to a revolution or anything.
    The people of Iran will get tired from this in a few days,
    and then life under the dictatorship will go back to normal.
    "The darkest places in hell are reserved for those who maintain their neutrality in times of moral crisis."

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