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    Re: Riots erupt in Tehran over 'stolen' election

    Quote Originally Posted by Agent Ferris View Post
    Meh the Assembly of Experts are part of the problem with the electoral system of Iran, not the solution. They are the Mullahs.
    What's wrong with being a mullah? They aren't all extremists. The clerical establishment is deeply divided over this election. The split between Rafsanjani and Khamenei is merely the most prominent rift.

    If they line up behind Rafsanjani and depose Khamenei, Iran suddenly looks a lot less dangerous to the rest of the world. Additionally, Rafsanjani is much more likely than Khamenei to endorse sweeping constitutional changes implementing actual democracy in Iran.
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    Re: Riots erupt in Tehran over 'stolen' election

    Mousavi is not a moderate or true reformer anyways he is partially responsible for the slaughter of 30,000 political dissidents in the late 80s, true liberty in Iran will only come when parties; such as, Marze Por Gohar are allowed to run.
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    Re: Riots erupt in Tehran over 'stolen' election

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    What's wrong with being a mullah?
    Theocracy.

    They aren't all extremists.
    In my book an electoral system which is a smokescreen for a theocratic oligarchy is quite extreme.

    The clerical establishment is deeply divided over this election.
    I bet, they can smell the burning of molotov cocktails.

    The split between Rafsanjani and Khamenei is merely the most prominent rift.

    If they line up behind Rafsanjani and depose Khamenei, Iran suddenly looks a lot less dangerous to the rest of the world. Additionally, Rafsanjani is much more likely than Khamenei to endorse sweeping constitutional changes implementing actual democracy in Iran.
    I'll be waiting with baited breath for the Mullahs to release even one iota of their grip.

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    Re: Riots erupt in Tehran over 'stolen' election

    To quote perham, "Iran is like hell"

    "the interior ministry controlled by ahmdinejad and with the permission of the supreme leader, faked the votes"

    I would add this brave young man was just about to take his finals in law at university, those exams were canceled for the election.

    Iran has started to expel foreign reporters.

    The INTERNET conections are so weak for the people, they cannot send anything other than emails.

    I hope I am not reading to much into his comments, but if the foreign press are removed and the INTERNET is so weak, I dont want to think what will happen.

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    Re: Riots erupt in Tehran over 'stolen' election

    Quote Originally Posted by B L Zeebub View Post
    To quote perham, "Iran is like hell"

    "the interior ministry controlled by ahmdinejad and with the permission of the supreme leader, faked the votes"

    I would add this brave young man was just about to take his finals in law at university, those exams were canceled for the election.

    Iran has started to expel foreign reporters.

    The INTERNET conections are so weak for the people, they cannot send anything other than emails.

    I hope I am not reading to much into his comments, but if the foreign press are removed and the INTERNET is so weak, I dont want to think what will happen.
    He should keep his head down and his powder dry.

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    Re: Riots erupt in Tehran over 'stolen' election

    Quote Originally Posted by Agent Ferris View Post
    He should keep his head down and his powder dry.
    I hope so, but he will do what he has to do.

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    Re: Riots erupt in Tehran over 'stolen' election

    Quote Originally Posted by B L Zeebub View Post
    I hope so, but he will do what he has to do.
    Surviving under the thumb of the Iranian Religious Police and the Revolutionary Guard, isn't surviving, it's like living like a scurrying cockroach. I will fight! I repeat it sir I will fight! As for me, give me liberty or give me death.
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    Re: Riots erupt in Tehran over 'stolen' election

    Quote Originally Posted by Agent Ferris View Post
    Surviving under the thumb of the Iranian Religious Police and the Revolutionary Guard, isn't surviving, it's like living like a scurrying cockroach. I will fight! I repeat it sir I will fight! As for me, give me liberty or give me death.
    Unless you're in Iran, this is not your fight.

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    Re: Riots erupt in Tehran over 'stolen' election

    Quote Originally Posted by Triad View Post
    I need to see bullets fly from the "reformers" or whomever to believe this has a chance at all of going beyond this.



    Government shoots some people its right back to ["will lead to nothing but some bad times for some of those who took part." imo.
    I agree I have at the present time no reason to believe that the present situation will do anything other than let those in power know the people know what they have done.

    I also have concern about your second point re the government shooting. I do not want to see anything similar to TS89 which would achieve nothing but death to those wishing change.

    The Iranian people though have and are continuing to speak.

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