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Kansas Teacher Claims Conservative Views Led to Loss of Job

Not getting too far off topic, but I believe Scarecrow AKHBAR was speaking of Palin's experience as an Executive branch head.

Let me first say that Alaska is a beautiful state and despite the fact that there are more people in Riverside County, the Governor's job is surely a challenging one. (Jall:);))

That being said -- after she was introduced at the convention we all started learning about her. I listened to what she said and how she said it at many rallies and in several interviews. I read about her record as a Governor and a Mayor. Also, I tend to put more weight than some on professional and academic credentials.

Over a period of about 3 weeks I formed an opinion that she was not qualified to be 1st in line for Presidency.
 
Well, that's your opinion. You're certainly entitled to it.

No, that was a statement of fact, with measurable parameters.

Time in executive office of candidates:

Palin: 6 years mayor, 2 years governor.
McCain: zip
Messiah: squat
Biden: nada

Least Liberal to Flaming:

Palin
Biden/McCain Tossup
Messiah.

Speaking Skills:

Palin: Genuine if untrained
McCain: Strained
Biden: Stolen and Bumbly.
Messiah: Advanced Telelprompter Skills, low ad lib ability, which is bad, considering the fact that the Messiah is all lib.

Integrity:

Palin: 14-0 on phony ethics charges brought against her.
McCain: None
Biden: Convicted of plagiarism at Syracuse University Law School, caught later copying old Neil Kinnock speeches.
Messiah: Only keeps promises certain to harm the United States.

Most of this was evident last August, the rest became apparent in time.

Almost 1/8 of the Obama presidency is in the trashcan. What has the boy done right?

Nada.
 
if so then in that sense he is correct. But, national experience-wise it is not.

What "national experience" did Two Year Senator and Comprehensive Community Organizer Messiah have?

Oh, that's right. He didn't have any, and he hasn't shown any competence in either the domestic and international arena yet.
 
Qualifications extend beyond the number of days in a low pressure governor's job. Capability and competence are what is valued in a presidential candidate, and you cannot claim that Palin qualifies for either of these. Fortunately, The Messiah does qualify.

Well, if capability and competence are valued in the White House, how did The Messiah get elected instead of a competent and capable governor?
 
What "national experience" did Two Year Senator and Comprehensive Community Organizer Messiah have?

Oh, that's right. He didn't have any, and he hasn't shown any competence in either the domestic and international arena yet.

Ok really? Two years in the senate=a pathetically small amount of experience in the national arena, but it is still more than Palin had.
 
To provide as little debate as possible so that I don't have to read one of your longer responses:

Palin=no national experience
Obama=a tiny amount of senate experience
Biden and McCain=great deal of senate experience

All of this makes Palin at least less qualified than Biden or McCain. Amusing that only Conservatives call Obama the Messiah, and a couple crazy nutzo liberals.

No, that doesn't work. You listed three Senators, who never have to take responsibility for ANYTHING they say or do, and a governor, who has the final say on legislation and who has to present an agenda and a budget and all the other things governors have to do.

So, between The Messiah, The Plagiarizer, and the RINO, there's one year's experience, times sixty or so.

Palin had eight years as being boss putting her name on the bottom line, first as a real mayor, and then as a real governor.
 
No, that doesn't work. You listed three Senators, who never have to take responsibility for ANYTHING they say or do, and a governor, who has the final say on legislation and who has to present an agenda and a budget and all the other things governors have to do.

So, between The Messiah, The Plagiarizer, and the RINO, there's one year's experience, times sixty or so.

Palin had eight years as being boss putting her name on the bottom line, first as a real mayor, and then as a real governor.

You know, your unflinching disregard for other peoples' opinions wouldn't bother me so much if you would stop trying to pretend to be something you're not (moderate)

I already admited you were right in that Palin has more EXECUTIVE experience. I was discussing NATIONAL experience. Read my posts before arguing with me. Move on. Next Post.
 
Ok really? Two years in the senate=a pathetically small amount of experience in the national arena, but it is still more than Palin had.

Well, let's see....the original Constitution required GOVERNORS to appoint Senators....gee, I wonder which position was considered more important by the people who wrote the Constitution?

Not that it matters. Tenure as a Senator counts as ZERO towards "national experience". When did The Messiah come to California? Only when he wanted Hollyweird money. Then there's the fact that from the first day in orifice, The Messiah was campaigning to be King, and not doing his job as junior senator from Chicago, and thus he has less than two years real experience as a Senator.

So....what did The Messiah DO on the national level to have this mystical "national experience" you're referring to? Speechifying? That's just his teleprompter reading skills. What did he DO? Hmmmm?
 
You know, your unflinching disregard for other peoples' opinions wouldn't bother me so much if you would stop trying to pretend to be something you're not (moderate)

Holy bat****, Batman! What on earth ever gave you the notion I was pretending to be one of those limp-dicked ball-less metrosexual monstrosities?

I already admited you were right in that Palin has more EXECUTIVE experience. I was discussing NATIONAL experience. Read my posts before arguing with me. Move on. Next Post.

Yeah, you never defined "national experience". Since none of the Senators did anything to help the nation, this should be fun to watch.
 
Well, if capability and competence are valued in the White House, how did The Messiah get elected instead of a competent and capable governor?

Out of sheer interest, how long will it be before your fingers allow you to type out the words Barack Obama? Clearly, your keyboard possesses the necessary letters (unless your K has broken since you got yourself a username).

Given what I know about the school system, I'm willing to believe the teacher in this case, assuming he didn't have enough tenure power to be immune from administrative whims. His website is mostly blank from what I can see, with nothing blatantly objectionable.
 
If it walks like a conservative, talks like a conservative, acts like a conservative, it is a conservative, which fits Scorpion and you to a tee.



Inigo Montoya: You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means. ---The Princess Bride



I really do not feel you have a solid understanding of the conservative concept.
 
Out of sheer interest, how long will it be before your fingers allow you to type out the words Barack Obama? Clearly, your keyboard possesses the necessary letters (unless your K has broken since you got yourself a username).

Given what I know about the school system, I'm willing to believe the teacher in this case, assuming he didn't have enough tenure power to be immune from administrative whims. His website is mostly blank from what I can see, with nothing blatantly objectionable.

You mean as in Barack Hussein Obama, Bower to Muslim Kings, Annointed of Allah, More Than a Mere Man, A Messiah!

Yeah, I can type all that.
 
You mean as in Barack Hussein Obama, Bower to Muslim Kings, Annointed of Allah, More Than a Mere Man, A Messiah!

Yeah, I can type all that.

Whadda you want, a cookie?

It was a retorical question to make a point. The above was not the intended point.
 
What "national experience" did Two Year Senator and Comprehensive Community Organizer Messiah have?

Oh, that's right. He didn't have any, and he hasn't shown any competence in either the domestic and international arena yet.

Forgive me Jall, but he's beggin for it...

Scarecrow:

You can't show up on the national scene and not know the things she didn't know.

It was painfully obvious that many important economic and public policy concepts were relatively new to her (by about 2 weeks). She couldn't name an important supreme court precedent other than Roe v Wade. She couldn't articulate the job of the vice-president.

When she spoke she sounded like a high schooler struggling to b.s. her way through an essay exam, just filling in the test booklet with any phrases that popped into her head. She would answer questions by throwing out any terms or phrases she thought were relevant--hoping the interviewer didn't say: "Governor, you're not making sense." And the so-called liberal media spared her that embarrassment.

Her speeches were the worst kind of overly partisan rants-- especially when she went 'rouge'. She married herself to the thinnest of partisan talking points.

Just take a step back and try to objectively imagine her trying to debate economic or legal theory with Obama. Imagine her trying to discuss military strategy or diplomacy with McCain or Biden.

I'm sorry but she is not in same league as the other three.

She thought Africa was country -- not a continent.
 
She thought Africa was country -- not a continent.

I'm not going to take exception to the rest of your sincere, if overly harsh and wildly editorial, depiction except for what I quote above.

If you take issue with this, I am sure you will have no problem attributing to Barry that he thinks there are more than 50 states?
 
Forgive me Jall, but he's beggin for it...

Scarecrow:

You can't show up on the national scene and not know the things she didn't know.

It was painfully obvious that many important economic and public policy concepts were relatively new to her (by about 2 weeks). She couldn't name an important supreme court precedent other than Roe v Wade. She couldn't articulate the job of the vice-president.

When she spoke she sounded like a high schooler struggling to b.s. her way through an essay exam, just filling in the test booklet with any phrases that popped into her head. She would answer questions by throwing out any terms or phrases she thought were relevant--hoping the interviewer didn't say: "Governor, you're not making sense." And the so-called liberal media spared her that embarrassment.

Her speeches were the worst kind of overly partisan rants-- especially when she went 'rouge'. She married herself to the thinnest of partisan talking points.

Just take a step back and try to objectively imagine her trying to debate economic or legal theory with Obama. Imagine her trying to discuss military strategy or diplomacy with McCain or Biden.

I'm sorry but she is not in same league as the other three.

She thought Africa was country -- not a continent.

Though I disagree with some, I agree with most of this. THANK YOU!
 
You mean as in Barack Hussein Obama, Bower to Muslim Kings, Annointed of Allah, More Than a Mere Man, A Messiah!

Yeah, I can type all that.

The quick brown fox jumps over the lazy dog. Good to see we're both prepared for internet usage. Which god is he a messiah for, anyway? And does bowing to kings mean the kings hold a higher spiritual position than someone you regard as essentially a demigod? Is the king of wherever you're referring to the next Prophet Mohammed?

You sure? You're moonlighting as Edify Always in all ways?

Why would I bother with a same-thinking double identity? Especially one with a nondescriptive name? I'd be sure they disagreed with me so I could take either side in any debate and set up straw men... huh. Maybe I'm your double identity.
 
I'm not going to take exception to the rest of your sincere, if overly harsh and wildly editorial, depiction except for what I quote above.

If you take issue with this, I am sure you will have no problem attributing to Barry that he thinks there are more than 50 states?

Fair enough.

Ironically, by the time he's done, we may be down a few.;)
 
Fair enough.

Ironically, by the time he's done, we may be down a few.;)

If Texas gets their way, we may be down to 56. Or 55 depending on Barry's knowledge of American History that day.
 
Forgive me Jall, but he's beggin for it...

Scarecrow:

You can't show up on the national scene and not know the things she didn't know.

You mean like the defintion of "Bush Doctrine", or more specifically, being able to read the mind of the interviewer so that the definition she chose was the one he was using at that time, or the one he was going to switch to after she answered the question?


How about Joe Biden's not knowing that FDR didn't have TV?

Think that was important? I do.


It was painfully obvious that many important economic and public policy concepts were relatively new to her (by about 2 weeks). She couldn't name an important supreme court precedent other than Roe v Wade. She couldn't articulate the job of the vice-president.

The job of the Vice President is to wait for the President's last breath.

Most people don't like hearing that. It sounds so...mundane....and we can't have a mundane office to be filled, can we? But that's the reality none-the-less.

So EVERY candidate for the job invents some BS that makes the job sound more important and impressive than it really is.

When she spoke she sounded like a high schooler struggling to b.s. her way through an essay exam, just filling in the test booklet with any phrases that popped into her head. She would answer questions by throwing out any terms or phrases she thought were relevant--hoping the interviewer didn't say: "Governor, you're not making sense." And the so-called liberal media spared her that embarrassment.

The flaming left-wing anti-American pro-Messiah liberal media establishment spared her what?

Oh, they spared her the announcement that of the 14 ethics charges the Democrats have bogusly filed against her, not one single one was ruled valid. The mainstream media wasn't reporting that. No. The mainstream media dodged that by making sure a third rate comedian aired a lewd joke regarding Palin's fourteen year old daughter, so that all Palin related news in the following week would be about the joke of the comedian, and not the joke of the Democrats who've failed completely to stick their mud onto her.

Yep, Palin speechifying shurrrre needed polishing. Guess what? She's not a lawyer. Naming court cases isn't the most important thing in a candidate, in fact, it ranks right down there at the bottom of important things they need to know, along with pop quizzes of Republican candidates to name the most irrelevant international leaders and dog catchers the TV interviewers can did up, like they did with Bush in 2000.

The real question, the question that mattered, the question that she passed, was did Governor Palin have an ideological basis for her decision making that would make her a suitable replacement for McCain if McCain croaked.


The answer to that was "yes". She was anti-tax, anti-big government, anti-baby-murder, pro-freedom, pro-business, pro-growth, and pro-America, nonen of which the Democrat team could claim.

Just take a step back and try to objectively imagine her trying to debate economic or legal theory with Obama.

Yes, let's look at what The Messiah was saying in the campaign. "Can't continue the mistakes of the past", meaning he wanted to tax the piss out of anyone with money. Cutting taxes was the only spur to the economy that works, and the only way the economy was going to grow out of the recession. The Messiah's economic policies were straight failed Keynesian nonsense peppered with Marxist dog turds.

Palin was all for cutting taxes.

She'd have won that debate by any objective standard, since any objective standard would have to be weighed towards the side that promoted the methods that work, not the best teleprompter reader.

Imagine her trying to discuss military strategy or diplomacy with McCain or Biden.

You are aware that she was McCain's running mate, right?

And it would be funny as hell watching the Plagiarist discuss military strategy or diplomacy, or checkers or even which pickle will float to the top of the barrel first.

Oh, and gee....lookie there, you didn't mention Palin disucssing military theory or diplomacy with The Messiah? Naturally, apologizing isn't a good diplomatic tactic nor a sound military strategy, so The Messiah would lose.

She thought Africa was country -- not a continent.

The Messiah has yet to name the seven states only he knows about, and we're still wondering what prime vacation spots we've missed as a result.
 
If Texas gets their way, we may be down to 56. Or 55 depending on Barry's knowledge of American History that day.

If we do go down below 50, can't we bump Puerto Rico or American Samoa up in status -- I mean, so we don't have change all the flags.:confused:

And that island on the Disney Cruise -- that could be a state. I could be governor of Castaway Cay!:mrgreen:
 
The quick brown fox jumps over the lazy dog. Good to see we're both prepared for internet usage. Which god is he a messiah for, anyway?

I'm not sure.

I'm god, and I didn't send him, I know that.

There aren't any other gods.

I'd say the Democrats are engaged in wishful thinking, but that would mean they're able to think. So they're just a'wishin'.

Why would I bother with a same-thinking double identity? Especially one with a nondescriptive name? I'd be sure they disagreed with me so I could take either side in any debate and set up straw men... huh. Maybe I'm your double identity.

No, you don't. That seabreeze guy was presuming to speak for you.
 
I'm not sure.

I'm god, and I didn't send him, I know that.

There aren't any other gods.

Wow.....I don't remember worshiping you.

I'd say the Democrats are engaged in wishful thinking, but that would mean they're able to think. So they're just a'wishin'.

No, you don't. That seabreeze guy was presuming to speak for you.

I was agreeing with/explaining what he was saying. Poster in Question, please feel free to tell me if I interpreted your statement wrong. I can admit I was wrong.
 
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