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Kansas Teacher Claims Conservative Views Led to Loss of Job

And you are showing your hysteria in even commenting that the man is overly conservative to the point of standing out. You just simply do not know.

I know he was fired for being too conservative in a state that is ridiculously conservative. And that was my point. If a state full of raving conservative ditto-heads thought this guy was too extreme.....chances are the rest of us would agree.
 
I know he was fired for being too conservative in a state that is ridiculously conservative. And that was my point. If a state full of raving conservative ditto-heads thought this guy was too extreme.....chances are the rest of us would agree.

You don't know that. Has the school stated that as the reason he was fired?
 
You don't know that. Has the school stated that as the reason he was fired?

I know they fired him for being too conservative, that was the point of the story.
 
Really? Because when I hear that, I get a picture of a person who doesn't stop legitimate classwork to watch television for a while.

....seems to me like the inauguration of a president would be something worth watching on T.V. regardless of your political leaning. Kids will see how many inaugurations during their high school year? Once? Twice? I think it'd be something worth discussing in any history class....
 
I know they fired him for being too conservative, that was the point of the story.

No, the story only says what HE claimed they fired him for.
No info was given as to the schools side of the story, it was all claims and statements from the teacher. And a school official basically saying "I'm not allowed to say anything except that we followed procedure".
 
....this is Kansas...it's not like this is California or New York where I'd buy that his 'conservative' views might have been outside of the mainstream. But it makes me wonder. Just what exactly was so conservative about his views? Which views got him fired?
 
....seems to me like the inauguration of a president would be something worth watching on T.V. regardless of your political leaning. Kids will see how many inaugurations during their high school year? Once? Twice? I think it'd be something worth discussing in any history class....

Not at all. Especially considering he used the transcript of the speech as a discussion topic. And he stated that the class would be let out before the show ended. Seems legitimate to me that he would have skipped watching a little television in favor of real classwork.
 
....this is Kansas...it's not like this is California or New York where I'd buy that his 'conservative' views might have been outside of the mainstream. But it makes me wonder. Just what exactly was so conservative about his views? Which views got him fired?

Well, according to the teacher, one of the reasons was because he didn't have his students watch Pres. Obama's inauguration during class. The teacher stated it started 15 mins before class end, and the students would have left without seeing it all. Further, he stated that he had his students read the speech and discuss it in part and in full.

But, these are all claims, as far as I am aware, so no one knows why he was fired.
 
....seems to me like the inauguration of a president would be something worth watching on T.V. regardless of your political leaning. Kids will see how many inaugurations during their high school year? Once? Twice? I think it'd be something worth discussing in any history class....

He DID discuss it. He printed Obama's speach off and discussed and examined it with the kids. Read the article.
 
Do you have anything to back up this idiotic rant?

Well, there's the fact that goonions are unamerican.

There's the fact that no matter how the Messiah messes up a situation, He can't possibly have done anything wrong, and the real issue is the VRWC virulent anti-Messianic message.

And there's the noted hostility in Public School Land against non-lefties.

How many more facts do you need?
 
I think you are forgetting this is happening in Kansas. A teacher so conservative that he sticks out in Kansas must be quite a piece of work.

NOT in Public School Land.

It's a different universe. It's where the tornado landed, and Mr. Toto stopped being in Kansas as soon as he drove his McCain Palin bumper sticker into the school parking lot.
 
According to Conservatives maybe. The rest of us in the real world know better.

Those of US in the real world knew enough to not vote for The Messiah.

How about you?

You too ashamed to admit you voted for him now, or are you are still under The Spell?
 
Those of US in the real world knew enough to not vote for The Messiah.

How about you?

You too ashamed to admit you voted for him now, or are you are still under The Spell?

Somehow I am doubting your actual lean is Independant.
 
Exactly. There's a lot of conjecture and a lot of assumption but very little fact on either side. :shrug:

And for Caine and Scarecrow, it's not "believe the teacher no matter what". It's "believe the one claiming to be a conservative no matter what".

Actually, it's "damn, another typical and totally believable story about socialists ruining the public schools overstepping their authority".

School officials are as bad as cops, if you let them get away with abusing their power.
 
Well, there's the fact that goonions are unamerican.

There's the fact that no matter how the Messiah messes up a situation, He can't possibly have done anything wrong, and the real issue is the VRWC virulent anti-Messianic message.

And there's the noted hostility in Public School Land against non-lefties.

How many more facts do you need?

Which has what to do with anything concerning the situation at hand?
 
Actually, it's "damn, another typical and totally believable story about socialists ruining the public schools overstepping their authority".

School officials are as bad as cops, if you let them get away with abusing their power.

Ok judging from the fact that I am pretty sure there are just as many liberal parents as conservative parents, I am pretty sure there is no liberal majority seeking to "dupe" our kids by giving them a second rate or terrible education.

Secondly, what do you mean "another?" The word tends to belie a first article. Not saying there isn't one, I'm just curious to see it.

Thirdly, If you are going to take the whole Liberal=Commy approach, change your leaning to Conservative, because no real independant believes that Limbaugh induced nonsense. No, I am not a Liberal, I am a very moderat Conservative so don't even go there.

Finally, the previous hundred posts telling us that we don't truly know anything about this situation are correct regardless of which school system the teacher was in.
 
It has to do with the topic, we don't have ALL SIDES to the story, so to say it is the teachers fault or the school's is PREMATURE. That goes for any side.

No. We have sufficient evidence to make a preliminary judgement.

The teacher was teaching history, not left-wing propaganda.

The teacher dared to step outside the temple and refused to worship The Messiah.

The school is run by the pro-Messiah anti-America unions.

The school refusal to present an explanation means merely that they haven't been able to come up with one, a problem they wouldn't have if they had a legitimate case against the heretic.

Over 100 students in that school petitioned to retain this teacher, a significant number of today's apathetic youth took action thereby.
 
No. We have sufficient evidence to make a preliminary judgement.

The teacher was teaching history, not left-wing propaganda.

The teacher dared to step outside the temple and refused to worship The Messiah.

The school is run by the pro-Messiah anti-America unions.

The school refusal to present an explanation means merely that they haven't been able to come up with one, a problem they wouldn't have if they had a legitimate case against the heretic.

Over 100 students in that school petitioned to retain this teacher, a significant number of today's apathetic youth took action thereby.

Once again, since apparently the past six people have not backpeddled enough for you. We only "know" the things above because the teacher and ONE (as in singular, uno, single, alone,not two) student said so and some other students joined a FACEBOOK group, which in no world, except your's apparently, makes them true. Who here votes that a facebook group and two peoples testimony = solid evidence?
 
Ok judging from the fact that I am pretty sure there are just as many liberal parents as conservative parents,

Basis for assumption? Address in your argument the fact that an outstanding majority of the US Senators are poisoned by socialism, that a strong majority of the House are similarly infected, and that the nation has been slouching towards socialist heaven, what Americans call "hell", for the last 77 years.

I am pretty sure there is no liberal majority seeking to "dupe" our kids by giving them a second rate or terrible education.

Well, most kids are taught something that no one who's studied the subject would call "history".

Most kids are taught that simply having self-respect is more important than learning the skills that will allow a man to respect himself by accomplishing something useful for himself and his family, ie, a real job.

Most kids are taught that winning doesn't count, it's the effort that matters, which is purest bull droppings.

Most kids are taught that there's no such thing as moral absolutes, while the schools supplant the parents as the moral instructors of their lives. (The Paron's kids in 1984).

Math is taught by incompetents, because more time is needed to massage the kids' feelings.

Reading is optional, too.

The American school system is over funded and under taught, with the wrong subjects on the curriculum and no focus on what the real important issues for students are....learning SKILLS that will help them do well later in life, such as math, literature, HISTORY, and reading.

Secondly, what do you mean "another?"

"Another"....ie, more than one?

It's not like the abuse of power is uncommon in public schools. All the teachers I've talked to that weren't prounion were most definitely cautious about stating their convictions, since, like in all goonion shops, being anti-goonion wasn't a career propelling position.

So, yeah, I used the word "another", and no, I'm not wasting my time citing examples for anyone.

Thirdly, If you are going to take the whole Liberal=Commy approach, change your leaning to Conservative, because no real independant believes that Limbaugh induced nonsense. No, I am not a Liberal, I am a very moderat Conservative so don't even go there.

You're a liberal alrighty. Only a liberal would deny that liberal = commie and has since the liberals abandoned the socialist label to hide behind the label that used to identify person's opposed to the expansion of government power, a theft the liberals performed before Limbaugh was born.

Finally, the previous hundred posts telling us that we don't truly know anything about this situation are correct regardless of which school system the teacher was in.

Finally, the previous hundred posts by liberals insisting desperately that the teacher must be lying was indicative of their awareness that it's unlikely that he is.
 
Somehow I am doubting your actual lean is Independant.

Maybe you've never met a real independent.

Now you have.

It means I take the right side of the issue, I don't worry about which party is where.

Because the Democrats are almost never right on anything, it's their problem that they're on the wrong side. Its certainly not my problem, except, of course, that the easily led emotionally driven ignorant mob that votes for Democrats have the guns of the government backing up their evil agendas.

But intellectually and morally, I'm on the correct side of the issues I take positions on.

Did you ever try to understand your motives for being consistently on the wrong side of things,? That is where you are when you're not on my side, so it's something you should expend more thought on.

What are your driving moral absolutes? Have you matured enough to identify them?
 
Basis for assumption? Address in your argument the fact that an outstanding majority of the US Senators are poisoned by socialism, that a strong majority of the House are similarly infected, and that the nation has been slouching towards socialist heaven, what Americans call "hell", for the last 77 years.



Well, most kids are taught something that no one who's studied the subject would call "history".

Most kids are taught that simply having self-respect is more important than learning the skills that will allow a man to respect himself by accomplishing something useful for himself and his family, ie, a real job.

Most kids are taught that winning doesn't count, it's the effort that matters, which is purest bull droppings.

Most kids are taught that there's no such thing as moral absolutes, while the schools supplant the parents as the moral instructors of their lives. (The Paron's kids in 1984).

Math is taught by incompetents, because more time is needed to massage the kids' feelings.

Reading is optional, too.

The American school system is over funded and under taught, with the wrong subjects on the curriculum and no focus on what the real important issues for students are....learning SKILLS that will help them do well later in life, such as math, literature, HISTORY, and reading.



"Another"....ie, more than one?

It's not like the abuse of power is uncommon in public schools. All the teachers I've talked to that weren't prounion were most definitely cautious about stating their convictions, since, like in all goonion shops, being anti-goonion wasn't a career propelling position.

So, yeah, I used the word "another", and no, I'm not wasting my time citing examples for anyone.



You're a liberal alrighty. Only a liberal would deny that liberal = commie and has since the liberals abandoned the socialist label to hide behind the label that used to identify person's opposed to the expansion of government power, a theft the liberals performed before Limbaugh was born.



Finally, the previous hundred posts by liberals insisting desperately that the teacher must be lying was indicative of their awareness that it's unlikely that he is.

Ok. Your previous statement really doesn't merit any response but I suppose that I have nothing better to do right now.

Previous Posters comment-no they weren't saying he is lying, they were saying he COULD BE lying, just as the school system COULD BE lying.

To address your attack on my moderacy, read my other posts.

Liberals have not become Communists. They do not support government owned everything, they simply favor more government regulation. Which happens to be something I disagree with wholeheartedly, I just can't stand pompous partisan posturing like yours or Rush Limbaughs.
 
Maybe you've never met a real independent.

Now you have.

It means I take the right side of the issue, I don't worry about which party is where.

Because the Democrats are almost never right on anything, it's their problem that they're on the wrong side. Its certainly not my problem, except, of course, that the easily led emotionally driven ignorant mob that votes for Democrats have the guns of the government backing up their evil agendas.

But intellectually and morally, I'm on the correct side of the issues I take positions on.

You about as 'independent' as a pod person. or the Borg.

If Dems are wrong on almost everything and you see yourself as always right. There's only one side left... Right?:doh
 
You about as 'independent' as a pod person. or the Borg.

I wouldn't know. I don't waste time on crap sci-fi. Only the good stuff.

And just because you can't handle the truth doesn't mean I don't post it.

Since I am independent, it's not my problem that you have problems with contronting your own misperceptions.

What do I ask when I see a new issue? "How is individual freedom enhanced?" Then I follow the logic, and it usually takes me as far away from anything a proto-democrat or fully grown Demothug would consider. And that means I've followed the correct path.
 
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