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    Re: Kansas Teacher Claims Conservative Views Led to Loss of Job

    Quote Originally Posted by Truth Detector View Post
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    well jallman, as soon as you can find where i "asserted" any reasons for his firing i will be happy to answer whatever question you want to postulate. But seeing that i have not asserted any reasons as to why this guy was fired, why don't you explain why you falsley claim i am making assertions here?

    Good lord, do you read before you type?

    Here’s my post you responded to, please highlight where i made any assertions relating to the reason this teacher was fired:

    The logical fallacy of your own emotionally hyperbolic posts supersedes any you “perceive” others have made.


    Where does one begin with such nonsense; I don't see any caps and what the hell does this have to do with my comments to Jallman?

    Perhaps you need some help connecting the dots.
    Aaand my patience for your bull**** has dried up already. You can sit and argue and flame yourself. We'll all just sit here and laugh at your display of cantankerous, ornery self stimulation.


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    Re: Kansas Teacher Claims Conservative Views Led to Loss of Job

    Quote Originally Posted by Truth Detector View Post
    Although I appreciate your wordy diatribe, this does not remove the fact that you made a condescending arrogant post laughing at Akhbars "independence."

    What is ironic is your response to me; as if you had anything that actually was supportive of your insulting condescension towards Akhbar which had NOTHING to do with the thread topic.
    Nothing to do with the thread topic?? -- People who are blindly married to their political views -- JUST LIKE THE TEACHER.

    O-OOOOHHHH!!! -- That thread topic...

    Based on our previous debates, the notion that you are NOT a Liberal requires the willing suspension of disbelief. Perhaps your own notions about what is a "moderate" are what confuse you and not my assertion that yours is more laughable than your insults directed at Akhbar's independence?
    Quote me and prove it. Find a representative sampling of my statements in posts on a variety of social/political issues and ARTICULATE why they appear to have an overall liberal leaning. That's how it works. Get it?

    As for trolling, let me use a perfect example of a trolling post:



    What is more ironic is the hypocrisy of your own trolling behavior and you calling me a troll.
    You just friggin' did it again. You completely ignore anything I said leading up to that in order to make your totally stupid insipid remark.

    Why not post a counter-argument to the one I made about 'Independent' Scarecrow's lack of independent thought?

    Can't you do that???

    Again, prove me wrong about what I said, show me Scarecrow's objectivity and independence or stop making foolish troll-like statements.

    BTW -- Threads have a life of their own -- Scarecrow didn't mind engaging in me questioning his independence, so for you to say it has nothing to do with the teacher is asinine and Trollish.

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    Re: Kansas Teacher Claims Conservative Views Led to Loss of Job

    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    Your implications were clear no matter how much you try to backpedal out of them.
    I made NO implications nor am I attempting to backpedal from them. Once more you project and fabricate arguments rather than comprehend what was typed.

    I don't know whether the teacher was fired for his "conservative" views but I would tend to lean towards his version without the school board’s input which so far they are very unwilling to provide any facts which in itself suggests they are not confident about their decision.

    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    I suggest your tone change with a quickness if you intend to even front the idea that this is a civil conversation.
    What irony watching you argue about tone changes. Do you even read your own rabid highly emotional trolling arrogance and condescension on this forum?

    Once more, what part of my comments to Hatuey suggests that I made any implications as to the reason this teacher was fired and what part was uncivil in tone? Here let me post my response again:

    Quote Originally Posted by Truth Detector View Post
    That is YOUR opinion. This debate is not about YOUR opinions about what should or should not be taught but rather how is his behavior anything remotely justifying getting fired?

    This teacher clearly states that he didn't and wouldn't show Bush's either and based on student comments is relatively unbiased in his course teachings.

    My kids get blathered with Liberal think in school all the time. Should those teachers get fired? How about teachers who teach the UNPROVED idea of man-caused Global Warming, should they be fired?
    What we have here is a bad case of projection and hyperbolic trolling from you.

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    Re: Kansas Teacher Claims Conservative Views Led to Loss of Job

    Quote Originally Posted by hazlnut View Post
    Nothing to do with the thread topic?? -- People who are blindly married to their political views -- JUST LIKE THE TEACHER.

    O-OOOOHHHH!!! -- That thread topic...



    Quote me and prove it. Find a representative sampling of my statements in posts on a variety of social/political issues and ARTICULATE why they appear to have an overall liberal leaning. That's how it works. Get it?



    You just friggin' did it again. You completely ignore anything I said leading up to that in order to make your totally stupid insipid remark.

    Why not post a counter-argument to the one I made about 'Independent' Scarecrow's lack of independent thought?

    Can't you do that???

    Again, prove me wrong about what I said, show me Scarecrow's objectivity and independence or stop making foolish troll-like statements.

    BTW -- Threads have a life of their own -- Scarecrow didn't mind engaging in me questioning his independence, so for you to say it has nothing to do with the teacher is asinine and Trollish.
    At the risk of de-railing the thread with all this personal back and forth, here is my take on your political views:

    What is the most telling about your short time on DP is that you rarely call out the Leftists of the forum but are more inclined to attack “conservative” members.

    Here’s one of you putting down Drudge and comparing it to the left wing extremist site called the Huffington Post.

    Quote Originally Posted by hazlnut View Post
    Drudge is such a partisan hack. At least Huff Post puts links right to the actual news story.
    Here is one of your typical rants against the evils of religion in politics:

    Quote Originally Posted by hazlnut View Post
    Which 'conservative' beliefs?

    You got your religious social conservatives -- the real RINO's IMO.

    And you got your fiscal Goldwater/Reagan old school conservatives. My type of conservatives.

    Great -- give me Mitt Romney without the religion and I'm in 100%.

    Cut the ties with the f-ing religious right and lets go to town!!!!

    Edit: It was Reagan who opened the door to the Christian folks. Shame on him -- but I guess he felt he needed the votes.
    Here is one where you attempt to defend Democrat spending and re-define what someone meant by Liberal spending into one of police, fire and public roads.

    Quote Originally Posted by hazlnut View Post
    The 'government teat' = socialized institutions. We have a few of those. Emergency services. Police departments. Public roads.

    The banks and auto industry are government managed bankruptcies and lending. I don't like them. But they are temporary and therefore not socialism.

    BTW -- when you start talking russian history, you ignore the fact that we have elections every two years which effect the political power make-up in DC.
    Here is one where you defend CNN:

    Quote:Originally Posted by Triad
    So when someone says CNN is Liberal they are correct.

    Quote Originally Posted by hazlnut View Post
    No, what they are is biased and not very well-informed.
    How about this one where you appear happy that the GOP is fading:

    Quote Originally Posted by hazlnut View Post
    I can't say I think this is a good thing. But as long as the GOP continues to allow far-right social conservative to define a major part of their agenda and hyper-partisan pundits to be their voice... Then people are going to move away.

    Right after the election there was all this 'right of center' talk. What happened to that? Newt and Rush call Sotomayor a racist--people outside the actual working-in-politics part of the party are ruining it IMO.
    Here is one where you go over the top and accuse the teacher who is the subject of this thread of being a “GOP” advocate.

    Quote Originally Posted by hazlnut View Post
    An overly partisan person would have no problem teaching for the last 8 years. But when the country changed and he didn't like it, he stopped being a teacher and became a GOP advocate that happen to work at a high school.
    How about more of your typical rants against Hannity and Rush and your version of reality in this thread and gross assumptions based on your own Liberal bisases:

    Quote Originally Posted by hazlnut View Post
    No, this guy is a piss poor history teacher. IMO.

    Bush's inauguration didn't have historical significance of Obama's.

    He didn't want to interrupt the class?? Because his lecture on how Bush was right on Iraq so much more relevant. What an ass! When history happens, it's a good idea to stop and watch. And a transcript of a speech is the best way to understand and evaluate a speech. How the heck did this guy get a teaching credential for History?

    Like I said, those who can't do... He wants so bad to be Sean Hannity, but the only audience he can get is class of kids forced to listen to him.
    I could go on and on; but it begs the question, who did you vote for last election and how are you registered?

    Perhaps that will shed a little more light on why you continue to troll Conservative members on DP, make illogical rants against the evil “Christians” and rail against the evil Rushbots and Bushbots yet totally ignore the rabid idiotic rants of the left leaning members of the forum and the illogical rants of Keith Olderman and James Carville.

    Taking a little trip through your postings illustrates someone who is more inclined to troll threads than add anything substantive to the debates, yet you want to whine about others trolling; how trite, how simplistic, how arrogant and how ironic.

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    Re: Kansas Teacher Claims Conservative Views Led to Loss of Job

    Okay, let's go point by point.

    Quote Originally Posted by Truth Detector View Post

    Here’s one of you putting down Drudge and comparing it to the left wing extremist site called the Huffington Post.
    I don't like Druge and I noticed that Huff Post has links to the stories.

    1)How does that make me left of center? A Democrat?

    2)Support with evidence that Huff Post is 'extreme' left. (dis oughta be good) Do they advocate anarchy or violence against conservatives?

    Answer those two, and we'll move on to the next point.

    Just FYI -- The only party I've ever been registered with is the Republican party. I'm currently registered as an Independent. The Nov. election was the first election in my lifetime where, IMO, we weren't forced to choose between the lesser of two evils. We had two bright, capable candidates with interesting backgrounds. I was really looking forward the debates. I was really looking forward to listening to what they both had to say. Then Palin joined the Republican ticket. I listened to her speak, watched her interviews, read about her in different sources, and ultimately came to the conclusion that she terribly under-qualified for national office. I am not the only right of center person who felt that way.

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    Re: Kansas Teacher Claims Conservative Views Led to Loss of Job

    Quote Originally Posted by wbreese91 View Post
    I am going to post this again, because apparently you have missed it the other twenty times. I'll even bold the important parts for you.
    Yes the teacher says he wouldn't show Bush's, but he could be lying, or he could be telling the truth. We don't know! That's the point
    Bush was already elected in the PAST. Which means he can't get elected again.

    That stated, if the teacher says that he DIDN'T (past tense) show Bush's inauguration then there is a good chance that he did not do so.

    I mean, you guys are really working hard to pick apart every thing and say, "Well he could be lying!"

    I'll keep that in mind the next time you believe something negative about a republican in another threat based upon the words of a liberal and nothing more.
    "I condemn the ideology of White Supremacy and Nazism. They are thugs, criminals, and repugnant, and are against what I believe to be "The American Way" "
    Thus my obligatory condemnation of White supremacy will now be in every post, lest I be accused of supporting it because I didn't mention it specifically every time I post.

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    Re: Kansas Teacher Claims Conservative Views Led to Loss of Job

    Quote Originally Posted by hazlnut View Post
    Nothing to do with the thread topic?? -- People who are blindly married to their political views -- JUST LIKE THE TEACHER.

    O-OOOOHHHH!!! -- That thread topic...
    Can you show me some proof that the teacher is blindly married to his political views?

    I can play this annoyingly retarded liberal game too....
    "I condemn the ideology of White Supremacy and Nazism. They are thugs, criminals, and repugnant, and are against what I believe to be "The American Way" "
    Thus my obligatory condemnation of White supremacy will now be in every post, lest I be accused of supporting it because I didn't mention it specifically every time I post.

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    Re: Kansas Teacher Claims Conservative Views Led to Loss of Job

    Quote Originally Posted by hazlnut View Post
    Okay, let's go point by point.



    I don't like Druge and I noticed that Huff Post has links to the stories.

    1)How does that make me left of center? A Democrat?

    2)Support with evidence that Huff Post is 'extreme' left. (dis oughta be good) Do they advocate anarchy or violence against conservatives?

    Answer those two, and we'll move on to the next point.

    Just FYI -- The only party I've ever been registered with is the Republican party. I'm currently registered as an Independent. The Nov. election was the first election in my lifetime where, IMO, we weren't forced to choose between the lesser of two evils. We had two bright, capable candidates with interesting backgrounds. I was really looking forward the debates. I was really looking forward to listening to what they both had to say. Then Palin joined the Republican ticket. I listened to her speak, watched her interviews, read about her in different sources, and ultimately came to the conclusion that she terribly under-qualified for national office. I am not the only right of center person who felt that way.
    In other words, you voted for Obama. Thank you for clarifying your REAL positions for us.

    Carry on!

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    Re: Kansas Teacher Claims Conservative Views Led to Loss of Job

    Quote Originally Posted by Caine View Post
    Can you show me some proof that the teacher is blindly married to his political views?

    I can play this annoyingly retarded liberal game too....
    I think the whole point here is that there isn't any evidence either way. If anything, the teacher isn't blindly married to his idealogy as much as it is that he uses it to support his persecution complex.

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    Re: Kansas Teacher Claims Conservative Views Led to Loss of Job

    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    I think the whole point here is that there isn't any evidence either way. If anything, the teacher isn't blindly married to his idealogy as much as it is that he uses it to support his persecution complex.

    That... I can agree with.
    "I condemn the ideology of White Supremacy and Nazism. They are thugs, criminals, and repugnant, and are against what I believe to be "The American Way" "
    Thus my obligatory condemnation of White supremacy will now be in every post, lest I be accused of supporting it because I didn't mention it specifically every time I post.

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