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    Re: Kansas Teacher Claims Conservative Views Led to Loss of Job

    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    Well can you prove that this is what he got fired over?
    Well, can you prove that he wasn't fired because of his political views?

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    Re: Kansas Teacher Claims Conservative Views Led to Loss of Job

    Quote Originally Posted by Truth Detector View Post
    Well, can you prove that he wasn't fired because of his political views?
    I'm not require to prove a negative. It's a logical fallacy.

    You have just as much information as we do. That being the word of a fired employee, the word of a hyper emotional adolescent, and a whole lot of conjecture and guessing.

    So I will answer the question for you. No, you cannot prove anything you just asserted at this time.

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    Re: Kansas Teacher Claims Conservative Views Led to Loss of Job

    Quote Originally Posted by Truth Detector View Post
    Well, can you prove that he wasn't fired because of his political views?
    No, that is exactly the point we have been trying to make for twenty some pages. WE DON'T KNOW WHY HE WAS FIRED OR WHAT ROLE, IF ANY, HIS VIEWS PLAYED IN IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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    Re: Kansas Teacher Claims Conservative Views Led to Loss of Job

    Quote Originally Posted by hazlnut View Post
    Wow, I post explanations of my opinions. Make analogies, use evidence from his own posts to question his claim of being 'independent'.

    And what do you do Truth Detector? Nothing. You make a statement without any backup, any explanation, or thought at all.

    Great. Well done. You sure put me in my place.

    Did you even read the all posts related to my assertion and attempt to articulate why my criticism was unfounded...?? Or did you drop in to TROLL?

    Detect this truth -- You're busted TROLL.
    Although I appreciate your wordy diatribe, this does not remove the fact that you made a condescending arrogant post laughing at Akhbars "independence."

    What is ironic is your response to me; as if you had anything that actually was supportive of your insulting condescension towards Akhbar which had NOTHING to do with the thread topic.

    Based on our previous debates, the notion that you are NOT a Liberal requires the willing suspension of disbelief. Perhaps your own notions about what is a "moderate" are what confuse you and not my assertion that yours is more laughable than your insults directed at Akhbar's independence?

    As for trolling, let me use a perfect example of a trolling post:

    Quote Originally Posted by hazlnut View Post
    Listen to Mr. Independent!! What a frigin' joke!
    What is more ironic is the hypocrisy of your own trolling behavior and you calling me a troll.

    Carry on.

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    Re: Kansas Teacher Claims Conservative Views Led to Loss of Job

    Quote Originally Posted by Truth Detector View Post
    Although I appreciate your wordy diatribe, this does not remove the fact that you made a condescending arrogant post laughing at Akhbars "independence."

    What is ironic is your response to me; as if you had anything that actually was supportive of your insulting condescension towards Akhbar which had NOTHING to do with the thread topic.

    Based on our previous debates, the notion that you are NOT a Liberal requires the willing suspension of disbelief. Perhaps your own notions about what is a "moderate" are what confuse you and not my assertion that yours is more laughable than your insults directed at Akhbar's independence?

    As for trolling, let me use a perfect example of a trolling post:



    What is more ironic is the hypocrisy of your own trolling behavior and you calling me a troll.

    Carry on.
    No, just stop. Really? No evidence? Speaking as the person who had been arguing with Scarecrow on this thread the longest, go back and look at his previous posts. No one who is an independant talks like that.
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    Re: Kansas Teacher Claims Conservative Views Led to Loss of Job

    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    I'm not require to prove a negative. It's a logical fallacy.

    You have just as much information as we do. That being the word of a fired employee, the word of a hyper emotional adolescent, and a whole lot of conjecture and guessing.

    So I will answer the question for you. No, you cannot prove anything you just asserted at this time.
    Well Jallman, as soon as you can find where I "asserted" any reasons for his firing I will be happy to answer whatever question you want to postulate. But seeing that I have NOT asserted any reasons as to why this guy was fired, why don't you explain why you falsley claim I am making assertions here?

    Good lord, do you READ before you TYPE?

    Here’s my post you responded to, please highlight where I made any assertions relating to the reason this teacher was fired:

    Quote Originally Posted by Truth Detector View Post
    That is YOUR opinion. This debate is not about YOUR opinions about what should or should not be taught but rather how is his behavior anything remotely justifying getting fired?

    This teacher clearly states that he didn't and wouldn't show Bush's either and based on student comments is relatively unbiased in his course teachings.

    My kids get blathered with Liberal think in school all the time. Should those teachers get fired? How about teachers who teach the UNPROVED idea of man-caused Global Warming, should they be fired?
    The logical fallacy of your own emotionally hyperbolic posts supersedes any you “perceive” others have made.

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    Re: Kansas Teacher Claims Conservative Views Led to Loss of Job

    Quote Originally Posted by wbreese91 View Post
    No, just stop. Really? No evidence? Speaking as the person who had been arguing with Scarecrow on this thread the longest, go back and look at his previous posts. No one who is an independant talks like that.
    The last time I looked at the thread topic, it was about a Conservative Teacher who felt he was fired for his "conservative" views, not whether or not Akhbar's self proclaimed "Independence" is at question.

    Why don't we also debate how Hazlnut's may not accurately portray his "Liberal" views or how yours are not anything remotely connected to "Conservative" and really de-rail the thread?

    Carry on.

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    Re: Kansas Teacher Claims Conservative Views Led to Loss of Job

    Quote Originally Posted by truth detector View Post
    well jallman, as soon as you can find where i "asserted" any reasons for his firing i will be happy to answer whatever question you want to postulate. But seeing that i have not asserted any reasons as to why this guy was fired, why don't you explain why you falsley claim i am making assertions here?

    Good lord, do you read before you type?

    Here’s my post you responded to, please highlight where i made any assertions relating to the reason this teacher was fired:



    The logical fallacy of your own emotionally hyperbolic posts supersedes any you “perceive” others have made.
    I am going to post this again, because apparently you have missed it the other twenty times. I'll even bold the important parts for you.
    Yes the teacher says he wouldn't show Bush's, but he could be lying, or he could be telling the truth. We don't know! That's the point
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    Re: Kansas Teacher Claims Conservative Views Led to Loss of Job

    Quote Originally Posted by Truth Detector View Post
    Well Jallman, as soon as you can find where I "asserted" any reasons for his firing I will be happy to answer whatever question you want to postulate. But seeing that I have NOT asserted any reasons as to why this guy was fired, why don't you explain why you falsley claim I am making assertions here?

    Good lord, do you READ before you TYPE?

    Here’s my post you responded to, please highlight where I made any assertions relating to the reason this teacher was fired:



    The logical fallacy of your own emotionally hyperbolic posts supersedes any you “perceive” others have made.
    Your implications were clear no matter how much you try to backpedal out of them.

    I suggest your tone change with a quickness if you intend to even front the idea that this is a civil conversation.

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    Re: Kansas Teacher Claims Conservative Views Led to Loss of Job

    Quote:Originally Posted by truth detector
    well jallman, as soon as you can find where i "asserted" any reasons for his firing i will be happy to answer whatever question you want to postulate. But seeing that i have not asserted any reasons as to why this guy was fired, why don't you explain why you falsley claim i am making assertions here?

    Good lord, do you read before you type?

    Here’s my post you responded to, please highlight where i made any assertions relating to the reason this teacher was fired:

    The logical fallacy of your own emotionally hyperbolic posts supersedes any you “perceive” others have made.

    Quote Originally Posted by wbreese91 View Post
    i am going to post this in all caps, because apparently you have missed it the other twenty times. I'll even bold the important parts for you.
    yes the teacher says he wouldn't so bushes, but he could be lying, or he could be telling the truth. we don't knowthat's the point
    Where does one begin with such nonsense; I don't see any caps and what the hell does this have to do with my comments to Jallman?

    Perhaps you need some help connecting the dots.

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